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What a good saturday morning article. haha. |
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DreamWraith
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but... im just not sure what a photo of a zune has to do with the iphone hack. |
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kaila
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his auction was pulled. |
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TKJunkMail
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»NJ teen unlocks iPhone for use on T-Mobile
»NJ Teen unlocks iPhone
»So, who buying an iphone?
Some say AT&T and Apple should just get rid of their exclusivity agreement. We all know that isn't going to happen. We also know that VERY FEW users of the iPhone are going to unlock it. So few that I doubt AT&T is concerned at all.
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justin
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Brooklyn, NY | It is all kind of irrelevant now that that unlocking company will be selling software unlocks for "whatever the market will bear" (at least until AT&T try to sue them). |
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Re: Ebay chose not to list this....
Ebay are a bunch of SOBs. They kowtow to every large corporation, even if the company's position is legally unjustified. |
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said by NJxxxJon  :What a good saturday morning article. haha. Yep!
Thanks KathrynV . How many energy drinks do you drink to write BBR articles? 
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REPRESENT! 
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said by justin :It is all kind of irrelevant now that that unlocking company will be selling software unlocks for "whatever the market will bear" (at least until AT&T try to sue them). sue them for what? If I buy something, it's MINE. I can do whatever I want with it.. include modify it, break it or sell it.
At most all this does is void the warranty. |
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Re: Ebay chose not to list this....
I thought it wasnt pulled off by eBay but that hundreds of users were bidding millions on the auction so the kid cancelled it or something.
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said by pokesph :said by justin :It is all kind of irrelevant now that that unlocking company will be selling software unlocks for "whatever the market will bear" (at least until AT&T try to sue them). sue them for what? If I buy something, it's MINE. I can do whatever I want with it.. include modify it, break it or sell it. At most all this does is void the warranty. No. Bypassing security systems on a device is against the law. Check out the DMCA sometime. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA
In addition to the safe harbors and exemptions the statute explicitly provides, 17 U.S.C. 1201(a)(1) requires that the Librarian of Congress issue exemptions from the prohibition against circumvention of access-control technology. The Library of Congress made no exemptions for unlocking cellphones.
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the DMCA will never stand up if it gets dragged into the SCOTUS.
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said by TKJunkMail :No. Bypassing security systems on a device is against the law. Check out the DMCA sometime. » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCAIn addition to the safe harbors and exemptions the statute explicitly provides, 17 U.S.C. 1201(a)(1) requires that the Librarian of Congress issue exemptions from the prohibition against circumvention of access-control technology. The Library of Congress made no exemptions for unlocking cellphones. From another article:
There is apparently no U.S. law against unlocking cell phones. Last year, the Library of Congress specifically excluded cell-phone unlocking from coverage under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Among other things, the law has been used to prosecute people who modify game consoles to play a wider variety of games.
»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070824/ap_···unlocked
There's nothing special about this phone compared to other phones and "unlocking", is there? There are plenty of places selling unlock software for other phones, even those that are subsidized by the telco selling them. Since those people are not being prosecuted, I have to imagine that article above is correct... |
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It's funny because I saw this story in the paper today and they missed the other iPhone unlock that came out the same day too oddly enough. This software option sounds much simpler.
»www.engadget.com/2007/08/24/ipho···24-2007/ |
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AT&T is going to throw a S*** fit now that this can be used for different carriers. Their latest moves will be the following...
1. They will try to throw legal obstacles at the person who cracked it and will threaten people with lawsuits that share the information (As for how, I have no idea, but they'll try)
2. They will start to think of a way to patch it, releasing different firmwares and such.
3. Steve jobs will also feel this because of apples contract with AT&T, AT&T will probably be pointing fingers. |
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said by sporkme :From another article: There is apparently no U.S. law against unlocking cell phones. Last year, the Library of Congress specifically excluded cell-phone unlocking from coverage under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Among other things, the law has been used to prosecute people who modify game consoles to play a wider variety of games.
» news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070824/ap_···unlocked I was wrong. An end user can unlock the phone to connect to another service provider. But it won't be attempted by many, because the Library of Congress did not grant an exemption to those who unlock it for reselling. Those would still be liable under the DMCA.
»tushnet.blogspot.com/2007_03_01_archive.html
The court addressed the recent exemption for certain cell phone-related conduct in the Library of Congress DMCA exemption proceedings. Because that exemption allows circumvention “for the sole purpose of lawfully connecting to a wireless telephone communication network,” the court ruled it inapplicable – defendants were circumventing for the purpose of profitable resale, not connection.
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Re: Don't forget option 2
While the software unlocker sounds a lot easier, the people who wrote the software aren't actually releasing it. Instead they are charging for licenses to use it, which makes me think they'll be around much longer once they get sued by Apple and AT&T.
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said by TKJunkMail :said by sporkme :From another article: There is apparently no U.S. law against unlocking cell phones. Last year, the Library of Congress specifically excluded cell-phone unlocking from coverage under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Among other things, the law has been used to prosecute people who modify game consoles to play a wider variety of games.
» news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070824/ap_···unlocked I was wrong. An end user can unlock the phone to connect to another service provider. But it won't be attempted by many, because the Library of Congress did not grant an exemption to those who unlock it for reselling. Those would still be liable under the DMCA. » tushnet.blogspot.com/2007_03_01_archive.htmlThe court addressed the recent exemption for certain cell phone-related conduct in the Library of Congress DMCA exemption proceedings. Because that exemption allows circumvention “for the sole purpose of lawfully connecting to a wireless telephone communication network,” the court ruled it inapplicable – defendants were circumventing for the purpose of profitable resale, not connection. Maybe you should "Check out the DMCA sometime. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA ", as you were so quick to say to another poster.
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said by Kearnstd :the DMCA will never stand up if it gets dragged into the SCOTUS. Meanwhile it could be very expensive for someone to defend against a lawsuit brought by AT&T. |
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