  MrMoody Carbon Based Lifeform
join:2002-09-03 Smithfield, NC | Apocalypse Now
If this thing gets popular, it will cause the bandwidth/cap apocalypse. I can almost hear the ISPs screaming ... |
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  McLovin Chicka chicka yeah Premium join:2005-06-12 Fairbanks, AK clubs:
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The NFL is the greediest sports league out there besides basketball.
The MLB streams every game over their website free of charge (reg required, though), ESPN also helps them out too if I understand correctly.
I don't understand why the NFL requires such steep prices. Probably to pay their players $30 Million a year...... |
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  Big Pete
@qwest.net
| The MLB live streaming is most certainly not free... MLB.tv prices:
1 2007 MLB.TV Monthly Subscription Only 14.95
2 2007 MLB.TV Premium Monthly Subscription Only 19.95
3 2007 MLB.TV Yearly Subscription Only 29.95
4 2007 MLB.TV Premium Yearly Subscription Only 49.95
I think if you buy every game before the season its around $80 or so... |
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  MuDvAyNe Premium join:2002-03-02 Brooklyn, NY | reply to McLovin huh what are you talking about. It cost money to watch the baseball games from mlb.com |
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 mobbo
join:2005-04-13 Denton, TX
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| reply to McLovin WRONG! MLB.tv is not free. On top of that, their blackout restrictions are nothing short of ridiculous. PLUS, MLB held cable customers ransom at the start of the season unless they matched DirecTV's offer of $700+ million in rights to MLB Extra Innings. I would argue MLB is by far the greediest of all the leagues. |
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  polosh
@optonline.net
| Directv only provider who you have to pay for DVR device
dish network HD-DVR free to use just pay for service cable providers HD-DVR free to use just pay for service
directv HD-DVR $199 & they don't refund the money you paid for the device when u cancel or when contract ends or let you keep the device for that matter.
hope they change there policy by next year when there new Satellite comes online |
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  johndoe303
join:2003-01-01 Boca Raton, FL | reply to MrMoody Re: Apocalypse Now
I agree, Comcrap is going to have a fit! -- WRTSL54GS v2 + WRT54G v2 |
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  THUD300 Part Of A Complete Breakfast Premium join:2002-06-07 Decatur, IL | reply to polosh Re: Directv only provider who you have to pay for DVR device
$199? Website says $299. 
I would already have one if it wasn't for that. -- Your actual mileage may vary. Operators are standing by. |
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  McLovin Chicka chicka yeah Premium join:2005-06-12 Fairbanks, AK clubs: | reply to mobbo Re: NFL
OK Scratch that comment i guess. I remember people a few years back that always watched the games online before MLB.tv came out. Blackouts are pretty ridiculous as well. |
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 mobbo
join:2005-04-13 Denton, TX
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to Big Pete Ya it's around $80 but you cannot see your local teams. I live in Ft. Worth and cannot watch the Houston Astros or the Texas Rangers. They are, in theory, supposed to be shown on TV every night on my cable provider, but Charter sucks big time and FUBARs it every time. |
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 Tim2 Premium join:2006-06-19
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Okay... let me get this straight. DirecTV's "on demand" service is going to depend on the viewer paying for a broadband connection from another company... and that other company doing the heavy lifting for DTV?
That makes sense... on Planet Stupid.
(Just a quick edit: that would be like Comcast or TWC offering "free" on demand... but if only if you also had their internet service.) |
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 eco Premium join:2001-11-28 Wilmington, DE
| I feel this is probably only a short term solution until they can offer a real triple play package by either more satellites to increase available bandwidth for voice/data or setting up a WiMAX type solution.
I really think that if they can't offer a real ondemand service, like the cable and phone companies are offering now, they'll be dead in 10 or 15 years tops. People are moving more and more to watching their content when they want to, and more and more via ondemand as opposed to DVR. I'd bet the cable/phone companies will be able to work out some deal to allow a 'head end DVR' to allow people to record content and it be stored in a central location. It's a lot cheaper for the cable/phone companies to do that than put a big expensive box in everyone's living room. |
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  dbmaven There's no shortage Premium,Mod join:1999-10-26 Sty in Sky clubs:
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| Cablevision was ready to implement a "central storage" solution for all the reasons you cite, and got hammered. The content providers and a whole bunch of people screamed, threatened lawsuits, etc. etc. and Cablevision backed down and scrapped the plan (even if only temporarily).
The problem is the advertising $$ that keep the networks (and studios/content providers) in business. If you can skip/block the ads - then the $$ will go away - then what will you be left with?
It will be interesting to watch. -- If a pig loses its voice, is it disgruntled? Living in "an optimized state of temporary chaos" |
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  batterup I Can Not Tell A Lie. Premium join:2003-02-06 Netcong, NJ clubs: | What no swimming pool?
Why don't these leeches have to buy the mayor a swimming pool. Net-neutrality no problem, how many bits do you want to buy this month. |
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 radougherty
join:1999-07-23 Austin, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to THUD300 Re: Directv only provider who you have to pay for DVR device
The list price is $299 but unlike buying a Saturn auto you can usually negotiate with DirecTV and pay much less. There's a thread, also at DBSTalk, where folks have said what they've done to get deals with DirecTV, some $199, some $99 and some $19.99 or free. And as for Dish, usually if you want a 2nd DVR you also have to pay to get one, the 1st is the only 'free' one. |
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 dualsub2006
join:2007-07-18 Newport, KY
| reply to polosh I got my first 2 DVRs for free with my install along with 2 regular boxes. Then I got them replaced for free as well. I don't expect to pay much for my HD upgrade either.
The DirecTV DVR fee is $5 a month for all boxes which is half and the locals are included where they aren't with Dish.
Besides, no NFL Sunday Ticket. |
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  CapinPete Premium join:2002-12-23 Loxahatchee, FL | reply to dbmaven Re: Yeah, right
Do away with all advertising on TV and charge for all viewing "a la carte". Shoot, if they did that, I might only have to pay DirecTV $2.67 every month for as much TV as I watch. |
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  Mike Premium,Mod join:2000-09-17 Pittsburgh, PA clubs:   | reply to johndoe303 Re: Apocalypse Now
they're already starting to reach panic mode with the lack of bandwidth they already have and they still load up on VOD. |
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  kba4
join:2001-10-23 Canton, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| sounds very much like IPTV
The line between the old and new is getting more blury... if DTV can accomplish higher resolution HD with their new sat's, and provide equal or even better service via broadband downloads, cable companies will have a lot to worry about. IPTV is the future; how soon the future becomes the present may be a matter of months or years now 
on another note, it'd be interesting if the cable/telco's out there decide to start implimenting very strict consumption caps reasoning that it's hurting their business. -- illegal wars, prisoners with no trials, and state controlled media. welcome to the land of the free! |
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 CMoore2004 Premium join:2003-02-06 Jonesville, MI
| reply to Tim2 Re: Yeah, right
The customer buying the equipment understands that they require a broadband connection for this to work. And it's nothing like TWC offering free ondemand but demanding you have their Internet service. That is buying another service from the same company, while DirecTV depends on you having service through another company. And no, DirecTV doesn't still own DirecWay. If a customer's willing to pay for a 6mbps connection, why is it that when they use it for DirecTV OnDemand it's suddenly the provider doing the heavy lifting? DirecTV still has to pay for the bandwidth the customers use. To me, that very simple comment makes you sound like you're against network neutrality. If someone wants to watch a YouTube video, is it the ISP doing all the "heavy lifting" for YouTube? -- Charter 5M | Windows XP MCE SP2 | Mobile AMD Athlon 64 4000+ | 1.5GB RAM | ATI Mobile Radeon X600 128MB | 120GB HDD |
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