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Comments on news posted 2007-08-29 10:01:50: After the carnage yesterday at Earthlink, some of the fired employees are speaking out against the company's decision to fire core workers, as opposed to -- say -- firing the executives who thought it was a good idea to dump countless millions into B.. ..

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moonpuppy

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And so it begins.......

....the beginning of the end.


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sounds like

sunrocket firing all over again. Firing the best of the best or the highest paid. Looks like it is time to sell the stock before the ship sinks.
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no, it's time to SHORT this stock like nobody's business.
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dogo88

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TV ad

As I sat and watched TV last night on pops an Earthlink Ad and I have to laugh. It was all the employees telling us about how they're not some "backroom server" but real people. Yeah, right. After the bloodbath they're real people overseas. Earthlink just has no shame.

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guess i'll put my stock for sale on ebay opening bif $0.10
lol


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When it's all said and done...

it comes down to the money. That is the bottom line in business...not the people but the money. However, it takes people to make money. So, in essence, it really is the people, right?

Wall Street applauds the move but Wall Street's bottom line is money. But, isn't Wall Street made up of people and businesses that are ran by people?

Money is the life of business but doesn't it take people to help make that money? Doesn't it take people to even print money? When will we realize that we put way too much emphasis on the dollar and too little on the people?
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xrobertcmx
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Just makes

Me even happier to be a former customer.


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reply to dogo88
Re: TV ad

wow that tv ad is old.. I think I first saw it 2 years ago.


Agent_haito

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reply to fatmanskinny
Re: When it's all said and done...

Well said... The business of America is business, but that business needs people to buy the goods/services

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Re: Just makes

said by xrobertcmx See Profile :

Me even happier to be a former customer.
Happy to see people lose their jobs? Why?


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I don't think he is happy to see the people lose their jobs.

What he is saying is that he is happy to be a former customer, because he gets better service elsewhere, and because EL is going to Hell in an a handbasket, he is even happier to be a former customer.
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I don't like watching companies dump employees for a quick return, or to make Wall street happy. In the end it puts them in miserable place when they do finally get back on their feet, pending that is possible.
A better fix is general to cut executive pay, remove a few layers of extra management, and maybe not pay out bonuses or perks, especially these days when one executives pay can be equal to or greater then 15 to 20 mid level salaries.
What I am happy about is that I, as a customer, am not paying a company, that has done something I can not agree with ethically, for goods or services.
I am not happy that the reason for my cancellation (Earthlink selling me services it could not deliver, and the difficulty in obtaining any kind of support beyond what you see in a foamy cartoon) has nothing to do with this. But I can pretend:)
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Basically. I just get sick everytime I see another layoff by a company that is mismanaged.
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Wall Street

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New CEO Rola Huff wants more immediate returns. Wall Street analysts are happy with the moves.
Fricken day traders.
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The American Way

This reminds me of the 90's. I had a company closed and a 50% layoff at another because we were not making double digit profits. The first company was making a solid 9% + with a steady workload, and the New York office decided that was not good enough, dumped the workload and closed us. The second company was in a known 6-12 month slow down in work, so they dumped half of us (at least it was the least senior and not the ones nearing retirement, but no management), and then panicked because there was not enough people left to do the work a year later, and they are still paying for it eight years later.

That is one reason we have a good chance of speaking Chinese in twenty or so years. The Chinese tend to think of little profits today in exchange for big profits tomorrow, while the U.S. (and maybe the 'West') thinks of "Big profits now! Screw tomorrow."
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reply to xrobertcmx
Re: Just makes

I get sick everytime I read that Wall Street rewards mismanaged companies.

"Yay, they are profitable because they cut the folks that held the fort!"
"Yay, they fired half their workforce, so they save money by not paying out benefits!"
"Yay, their business model sucks, their executives have ridiculous exit contracts and parachutes, but they have a customer database that can be sold!"


paulhaskew
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Re: When it's all said and done...

business? We are a service based not goods based economy... most of the goods" are made overseas...


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"Maximizing shareholder value".....

I HATE those fricking words!!!!


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Re: The American Way

said by RayW See Profile :

That is one reason we have a good chance of speaking Chinese in twenty or so years. The Chinese tend to think of little profits today in exchange for big profits tomorrow, while the U.S. (and maybe the 'West') thinks of "Big profits now! Screw tomorrow."
There is no 'maybe' about it. The West's business model IS "Big profits now! Screw tomorrow."

Rape, pillage and plunder. Then as sign of total greed, sell customer info to anyone who waves a dollar in front of them.

Wall Street applauds this decision made by Elink. The adage of, misery loves company sounds true.

I feel sorry for the employees losing their jobs. The best they can hope for other than finding new jobs, is for Elink, after these moves to end up in the red.

Where they need to apply for a loan, to bail the company out. I wonder how much applauding Wall Street will be doing then.
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reply to fatmanskinny
Re: When it's all said and done...

Companies used to invest in people, now they'll only invest in positive stock ratings.

The real kicker here, at least from the perspective of an IT person like myself, is that more and more processes and policies are being put in place to either push a worker to do more or completely do away with employee involvement. It's as though it's becoming increasingly tough for companies to justify every salary below top management regardless of the load in responsibility and professional worth the underlings take on.

Maybe some day Japan and the US will go at war again and the former will win this time. Apparently it helped humble leaders there and encourage more people-centric economies. It's not like existing dmestic policy fosters anything but greed and increasing gentrification, among oher things.
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