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Comments on news posted 2007-08-30 18:35:44: Cablevision's Optimum Online (OOL) used to be the de-facto broadband king around these parts, with users of other ISPs lusting after the speedy cable connections. That was before FiOS, which started giving the cable operator a run for its money. ..

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Mike
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One serious question

Back when I was on 768k/128k Verizon DSL, OOL had 10mb/1mb service a long time ago.

8 years have passed I can get 3mb/768k DSL and has a that 30/5 tier.

Comcast (now in my area after 10 years!) cable modem sucks in my area. I think this is because everyone and their mother, again literally, are running from Verizon's poor and expensive service.

How can Cablevision with as small of a footprint as they have be able to throw all this bandwidth out and not go completely bankrupt? Is it a management style? Low overhead?
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Racerbob

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Why sure I have a comment

Wish that we had OOL here !


Xizer

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Don't get too excited.

Doesn't Optimum Online have strict bandwidth caps? They also screw around with any peer-to-peer traffic.

Yeah, have fun with those fast speeds for about 30 seconds, then get slapped down to dial-up speeds.

I'm orgasming in excitement over this new development from Cablevision, and I just can't wait to leave my ISP with no bandwidth capping procedures.


johndoe303

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Wow.

Just wow.. Good for them and their customers.. I'm sure we'll never see anything like this from Comcrap.
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kaila

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Unbelievable.....

This is the US, not Japan. How are they able to offer this?!? Every other ISP is screaming uncle because of bandwidth demands, and it goes against every rational argument big cable ISP's (like my Comcast) have against running uncapped.

I'm jealous.


TKJunkMail
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 Link to OOL speed results here at BBR

»/archive/optonline.net

Even uncapped, the max speed is just above 30 mbps.

Comcast by comparison:
»/archive/comcast.net

fiberguy
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It won't last long.

This is more of a test than anything - I bet you. @Home did this in the past and they went the way of bankruptcy. There is no way to run a network like this with any form of QoS.

When the networks of a few years back pulled this, and they grew, there was no way to get a valid product to the home.

My guess is that this will last a short while before they benchmark what the system can actually handle.

Enjoy it while you can.
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LiberalKing
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dont hate . this will last til the end of times this aint late 90`s .


MxxCon

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reply to Xizer
Re: Don't get too excited.

OOL does have some upload caps, but "strict" is hardly accurate description. BOOST users have never been upload capped, and we haven't heard of regular users getting capped in about a month now.
they also do screw around with afaik bittorrent and edk traffic, but not to the same degree as comcast or other isp. bittorent and edk are still very usable on OOL.
those fast speeds last as long as you transfer your data, not burst for the 1st 30sec.


MxxCon

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Re: Unbelievable.....

perfect example of (somewhat) healthy competition with verizon.


MxxCon

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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Link to OOL speed results here at BBR

uncapped modems can download only at maximum speed of 43mbit(limit of DOCSIS2.0 standard). minus tcp/ip overhead, minus the fact that OOL probably did not specifically optimized their backend for the absolute top of the line speeds, this is pretty good.
but compare »i.dslr.net/bellcurve/scurve5__co···51907405
with »i.dslr.net/bellcurve/scurve5__op···46065226

amungus
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awesome

Lucky them!

...Well Cox ain't too shabby here these days. I see many times where download speeds are ~1.3MegaBYTES/sec and I'm on the 'preferred' 7-8Mbps plan

True, it's not 30Mbps, but some speed tests have shown the powerboost to get me ~22Mbps! Pretty happy getting ~10-12Mbps to some places when it's only supposed to be 7-8Mbps.

Can't wait for DOCSIS 3.


Tzale
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 WOW!

WOW.... What can I say???

OOL caps the standard tier (15/2) if you upload too much for some people... I've never been capped and I uploaded 24X7 for over a week on bittorent.

I have since upgraded to Boost and get 30/5 for a couple dollars more per month.. I just got my new Dell Latitude D830 laptop today so I'll have to wait to see if this is true in my area on my desktop which is wired... Just can't hit that type of speed on 802.11g... heh...

So much tech fun for me today!!! heheh...

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reply to Mike
Re: One serious question

said by Mike See Profile :

How can Cablevision with as small of a footprint as they have be able to throw all this bandwidth out
Actually, I think this is how they DO offer these speeds.
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ztmike
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FiOS

Where the hell are they? Dont they only have a 20/5 tier? and some insane 50/10 or something thats like 100/month

Cablevision has always had good speeds


PolarBear
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Proof? Examples?

So where are the speed tests from some of the users that have this? Let's see just what they are getting.

KenAF

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reply to kaila
Re: Unbelievable.....

said by kaila See Profile :

This is the US, not Japan. How are they able to offer this?!? Every other ISP is screaming uncle because of bandwidth demands, and it goes against every rational argument big cable ISP's (like my Comcast) have against running uncapped.

I'm jealous.
You've got to keep in mind this is New York.

New York's backbone infrastructure rivals or exceeds that of every other country in the world. Bandwidth costs less in NY than it does in any other state, and significantly less than some states.

If Cablevision offered service in the central or midwest states, you would not see anything approaching these speeds.

ace41690

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Northfield, CT

reply to PolarBear
Re: Proof? Examples?

said by PolarBear See Profile :

So where are the speed tests from some of the users that have this? Let's see just what they are getting.
Umm, look in the forum, or in the OOL speed results, OR right at the top of this page where theres a screenshot of a download.

Also, Boost is only 9.95 more a month if you bundle voice, meaning it is 54.90 with voice and tv service, or 59.90 with voice and no tv service. It is 64.90 if you have no voice or tv. That should be corrected in the article...


BLUNTED 1

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reply to PolarBear
OOL sucks my speeds are not even half of what they advertise. They say 30/5 but if you get 18/2.5 they say oh thats how its supposed to be and its UPTO speeds. FIOS IS BETTER !!!
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