Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
| OpenDNS
I use OpenDNS and when I looked at the statistics, nearly all of my top domains were ad sites. OpenDNS lets you easily block them though, and I did. So now every time I see an ad, I just look at the properties and add the domain to the block list. It's nice not having to deal with the ads anymore, and not having to have extra software on my PC is nice as well since OpenDNS servers handle the work for me. |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| Ethical use of blocking please
I believe in supporting sites that I like by letting their ads onto my browser and monitor while visiting the site. They need the money from ads to pay for development, traffic, hosting and other costs. Therefore I don't use indiscriminate ad-blocking and I encourage others not to. I even click on ads sometimes if they are interesting.
On the other hand, certain ad techniques go too far, in my view. Any form of animation prevents me from reading text, so I turn it all off and block Flash. And tech that tracks users from site to site is unacceptable, so I block third-party scripts and iframes and known tracking companies.
If others followed these principles we could support sites and have less obnoxious ads. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
|  Seeing how many ads this s/w gets rid of ....
no wonder it is popular. Besides clearing a lot of useless junk off the screen, it saves the time needed to resolve the addresses and also download all the ads. This makes browsing with an ad blocker even faster.
Here are 2 examples of how effectively this type of product gets rid of ads:
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evilt00l
join:2003-03-20
Winchester, KY
clubs:
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Re: Ethical use of blocking please
I'm not sure but aren't most sites paid for ads that people click on? So even if you let them load but don't click on them you still aren't making the site any money right?
(again not being sarcastic or anything... thats just the way I thought it worked.) |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
·Comcast
·Patriot Media
| reply to Jmartz
Re: OpenDNS
I used a host list for a while, but some ads and ads companies can spread viruses, and some don't respond fast enough to DNS. The problem with ads is they are completely inconsiderate of the viewers. Especially ads with noise or just trashy. I use it specifically for that purpose. If ad companies realized that some people dont want to be annoyed but entertained, there would no reason for ad blockers.
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richdelb
Go Hawks Go
Premium
join:2003-01-22
Algonquin, IL | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Seeing how many ads this s/w gets rid of ....
I agree. Browsing with ad blocker is much faster. Most of the slowness I ever see with web pages is from the ad servers. Things are much quicker now.
Plus... Just think of all the precious bandwidth we are saving...... |
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Roadywan
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TKJunkMail 
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Exactly...
I don't need all that stuff cluttering up my screen.
Look, I know people generate revenues from having ads on their site, it's the nature of the beast. But you can bet if I have any say about it, I'm going to go for the purest, cleanest surf I can find.
Firefox/NoScript/AdBlocker Plus = NICE |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to evilt00l
Re: Ethical use of blocking please
Aren't some pay-per-view and others pay-per-click? (I don't run a commercial site myself) Maybe some advertisers pay only per click, but I think some pay a smaller amount per view and a larger amount per click.
Anyway if you leave non-offensive ads unblocked and click on those that interest you, that's more support for sites than if you block all ads. |
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StraitShoot
Who Loves Ya Baby? - Theo Kojak
Premium
join:2003-02-08
Clinton, MA
| This is all bull!
When I browse, I don't want to see any ads. Period. End of discussion. I don't care if the developer needs to have the audience to see the ad so he or she can get paid. The developer can also sell the product. As for me, where there is a will there's a way, and I'll do anything I have to to keep ads of MY machine....
Firefox is opensource. It's MY Software.
My computer belongs to ME! I paid for it with my cold earned hard cash!
I use Win2000 Pro sp4. When it matures a little more I'll switch to Linux..
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BryanOnRR
join:2007-06-22
Brandon, FL |  Yes
Awesome! About time
I choose what I want to see on my pc, If I don't want to see an ad,then I don't have to. Perfect application.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| reply to StraitShoot
Re: This is all bull!
I do agree with you on many points.
I wouldn't go as far as to claim that Firefox is 'your' software though, but rather its licensed opensource.
Your PC belongs to you (paid for... no license terms required)
Windows unfortunately is licensed 
Linux is a good workaround for the Windoze blues (or blue screen of death).
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pat_lc2000
join:2006-02-04
Ottawa, ON
| Ads
I don't mind ads. What I hate is Flash, which is why Flashblocker get's more of a workout for me then adblocker.
I don't mind the little google text ads, if they feel the need to show it to me, I'm fine with that. What I do mind is the giant ads that have sound, or fill up my screen. Or move. Those are the ones the piss me off. |
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Noah Vail
Premium
join:2004-12-10
Lorton, VA
·RoadRunner Cable
| Where are the Ad Defenders Today?
Here's the rub.
When ads no longer deliver malware,
when ads no longer use lies, exaggerations or lite porn to sell their product,
when ads are no longer deceitful or dishonest(as trying to appear as part of the content),
when ads are no longer undermine the content of a page by making it unreadable through popups, clutter, load lag or other inappropriate means,
THEN I will consider the arguments against ad blockers.
Got it Big Marketing? Clean up your industry and maybe I wouldn't have to defend myself from you.
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mwa423
@insight.com
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Re: This is all bull!
The obvious selfish flaw in your statement is that you assume the developer has a product to sell besides the content you are viewing. For example, DSLR doesn't really have a product to sell besides the content. If you block the ads it has no other significant revenue source. |
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Thrudd
join:2004-06-21
Mississauga, ON
| RE:RE
There is also the issue of who is paying for the bandwidth, what with caps and such from more and more ISPs .... unlimited, uh yeah, right...
It costs ME money to see THEIR ad so if they don't waste my money to look at their ad then I wont block them, else I will. Well it is either that or we start back charging BW usage to those ad houses that really hog our now more limited and costly BW.
Oooo, higher speed but with CAPs we can use it up in less then a day? Geee, we really wanted that didn't we? |
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milnoc
join:2001-03-05
H3B
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| "Backfired" is dead on!
I've discovered Adblock Plus because of Jack Lewis' tirade. As a result, I now have it installed on all my computers.
Thanks Mr. Lewis for letting me know about this wonderful product!  |
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rlocone
Honor Our Heros, Our Armed Forces
Premium
join:2002-04-10
Kokomo, IN
|  Ads are only the beginning.
I was over a friends out one day. Her grandkids and company was over even a City Official was over. He was standing in the doorway. He was talking to my friend. The computer had to be there. All of these porn pop-ups were coming out. It wasn't my machine but it was embarrassing. She started Yelling at me, "Oh can you fix it." Sure, first your kids have to change their browsing habits. Took me 3 hrs to fix everything up. Next week it's all @$%^ again! Next time I told her "Nope" you'll have to pay me. Sorry, I don't have the time to clean up after her kids every single week.
Once you click on the ad that is only the start. Then thats when malware, adware comes. I know some here have seen "Win-Anti-spyware" Click on the ad and your dead. Getting this adware out takes some doing.
People in general just click on anything and go to sites that contains all of this garbage. Later they are complaining. Surfing/browsing habits are the key. Using adblockers help.
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AdamD
join:2002-01-09
Maspeth, NY
| IMHO most people don't want ads or don't care for them...
I think it's pretty logical to say that if so many people want to get rid of ads then they're not interested in seeing them anyway and the ads don't work ANYWAY. In my example - in particular the annoying Flash ads - have the opposite effect: I would not click on such and make a mental not what was advertised to make sure I avoid it. Also, before AdBlock I often stopped visiting certain sites or just closed a window being annoyed by ads. Now, I can actually READ stuff without getting distracted. I think we are oversaturated with ads (and products and services) to the point we either ignore them or actively avoid them. And these idiots are looking for even more ways to send ads our ways (in-game adds, etc). Get real: most people don't want ads or don't care for them.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Ads? WTF are ads?
Look, ads are pretty easy to kill off.
Most anti-ad softwares do a great job OTB, and you the user can right click a pest and insert it's server address and that pest is a memory!
Most browsers can even blacklist servers - I know Opera can.  See pic!
Outpost Firewall does a pretty good job at denying ad servers too! Globally! Works for all browsers.
Me? Stealing?
How about you ad fa** stop stealing my bandwidth with crap ads that will never get clicked anyways? 
No? Fine! I'll just deny the connections! 
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Ad-driven model is passive
If you design and run a website, based on income from ad revenue, then you should expect to go the way of the magazine model: I don't have to read or look at the advertisements.
If I like your site, and the ads are not obnoxious, then I won't block.
Having choice is important. I use both host lists and AB+.
(I visit a site that uses nice, clean text-based ads. The site is responsible for its advertisers. That is something you DON'T get with magazines and other sites...farewell Banner ads. Farewell yahoo obnoxious mortage banners...) |
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