 Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12 Council Bluffs, IA | Holy hell....
I think we all wish we could get that. Though then again, France is about 1/30th the size of the US so its easier to get FTTH to everyone over there then it is over here. |
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 macguy
join:2007-08-18 Bloomfield, NJ | This is sad
Even if we could get speeds like the on fiber here, we'd pay triple or more for it.
Maybe that's because it's harder to lay fiber here. But for some reason I just don't believe that. |
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  puzzledCanadian
from: KrK 
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I think lots of DSL reports should take a geography lesson. 90 % of the US population lives in very dense urban centers (Boston to DC corridor), pretty much the same thing SFO to LAX (a little bit less dense.) The latency of deploying FTTH in the US and CANADA (Canada has 3 major cities where 50 % of the pop lives) has more to do with laziness, greed and inexisting gov regulations....
Go get a geography class ! |
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 lesopp
join:2001-06-27 Land O Lakes, FL | Score one for France
The US ILECs are moaning in their graves, if you believe in precognition. |
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  Realtech23 Premium join:2006-03-27 Olean, NY
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It does Not cost that much for the US to do something like this. US companies are greedy. I've worked for Time Warner and Adelphia. I have seen it first hand, but then again any consumer can figure that out. Only way something like this can be "unlocked" for the public and stop these price hikes would be for a company to be bold enough to off the speeds of the best for prices that are more affordable. It is getting to the point where a T1 line cost as much as some internet packages? are you kidding me. Who has the Balls to step up and do something real in the US? I mean if you really wanna make something happen people could always have one or 2 people in a block get service then everyone else gets routers and use them as access points and split the bill that way maybe all the telco's will start giving the consumer a break. Wait i forgot who i was talking about. The greediest economy in the world. -- I am the Coyote |
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 Rhanlav Dook?
join:2005-01-28 Jacksonville, FL | Sign me up!
I totally need to learn how to say "Take me to your Internet Service Providers" in French. I'll even wear a beret if it'll get me internet speeds at that price. |
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  HotRodFoto Premium join:2003-04-19 Denver, CO | reply to Jonbo298 Re: Holy hell....
who cares if it's 1/30th, offer it in metro areas. /end |
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 bamabrad
join:2006-01-27 Port Orange, FL | AMEN! |
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  Jeffrey too dark too early Premium join:2002-12-24 Dix Hills,NY clubs:
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said by Rhanlav :I totally need to learn how to say "Take me to your Internet Service Providers" in French. I'll even wear a beret if it'll get me internet speeds at that price. Because I'm rusty with my French, and because ISP I don't believe has any literal translation, the best I could come up with courtesy of Google is:
"Me porter à votre Internet Service Provider".
Gramatically-speaking, it doesn't look right.  -- "When you get lost in your imaginatory vagueness, your foresight becomes a nimble vagrant."
[Ramblings] [RIP Millie 1993-2006]
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 qworster
join:2001-11-25 Los Angeles, CA | Thank the FCC every time you overpay for Cable and Internet!
Their corruption (ie: they are bought and paid for by big telco and cable) is the reason why we pay over TWICE what people pay in other countries for better services. |
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 votum76
join:2002-01-29 Matawan, NJ | drool
What I'd do for those speeds .... |
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  telcolackey The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06 Death Valley, CA | 100Mb for what and to where?
How much of the 100Mb is dedicated to their IPTV service?
At what point does the 100Mb hit a Nx100Mb share point? Having a really wide driveway does not make you go faster on the highway. |
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 qworster
join:2001-11-25 Los Angeles, CA | reply to Jonbo298 This is PARIS they're talking about!
Paris is as LEAST as densely populated as New York or Los Angeles.
Your density argument does not apply in Paris. |
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  doc watson
join:2000-09-18 Canada | Re: France Telecom
I just watched a program about this, and because they do not want to disrupt the landscape of the city, it's being run through the sewer system. I believe the show was called Megastructures, or Megacities. Quite a good watch. |
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  gimme5
join:2002-12-23 Kissimmee, FL | reply to Rhanlav Re: Sign me up!
"amenez moi a votre fournisseur d'acces internet"
not that it'll help you get that service  |
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 nasadude
join:2001-10-05 Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to Jonbo298 Re: Holy hell....
said by Jonbo298 :.. Though then again, France is about 1/30th the size of the US so its easier to get FTTH to everyone over there then it is over here. no, that's not the reason they are getting this kind of broadband at this kind of price. It's because they have competition.
If being a small area means it's easy to get advanced broadband at low prices, why the hell don't San Francisco, New York, LA and other VERY DENSE cities in the U.S. have fast speeds at low prices?
The same studies that show the U.S. in 15th place or so in broadband have also normalized the data for population density - with few exceptions, there is no correlation between population density and broadband penetration, speed or price.
We have no real competition, so our broadband is going to continue to be more expensive and slower for a long time to come. |
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 Hctim
join:2004-09-12 Denver, CO | reply to telcolackey Re: 100Mb for what and to where?
Very well said |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
·Comcast
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50? 100? Hell, 10 symmetrical would be killer!
WTF?
$40.76 for a tripple play *AND* it includes 50/50? Uhm... HELLO!  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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 nozzer
join:2004-06-25 Waltham, MA | reply to Jonbo298 Re: Holy hell....
US is around 2.8m sq miles if alaska is excluded, France is 212K. Not exactly 30 times, more like 12x, with 5x the population. If you look at rural vs city distribution the two are similar. |
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 Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12 Council Bluffs, IA
| said by nozzer :US is around 2.8m sq miles if alaska is excluded, France is 212K. Not exactly 30 times, more like 12x, with 5x the population. If you look at rural vs city distribution the two are similar. I'm sorry I didn't take the time to look up the exact amount  |
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