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Comments on news posted 2007-09-07 16:50:11: [att=1212175,r]Comcast recently changed their TOS to state that customers could no longer sue Comcast or be involved in a class action lawsuit against the company. ..

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Anonymous_
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it needs to be changed to

it needs to be changed to (it's crapcastic!)


S_engineer

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Where is...

Notification of changes to the TOS?

This is a basic principle (or law) that financial institutions are held to, why isn't this applied to telcos and cablecos?
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Jon
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God they suck!



dilettante

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Haslett, MI
Throw the rascals out

I have to wonder why companies of such proven dis-reputability have to be allowed further access to our markets anyway. We need a consumer movement with some serious teeth in it.

The market does not belong to businesses.

whocares
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Re: it needs to be changed to

and more & more pple leaving comcast,and they just raised their rates this week,& plan on doing so again next month,

I'll bet their upper management is so mad they could,(well they say a picture is woth a thousabd words)lol,
i love it couldn't happen to a better company then time warner/comcast or castrate, or whatever name they want to be called.
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TKJunkMail
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 Word of Warning to Comcast users

This court ruling ONLY applies to class action lawsuits. It doesn't apply to suing Comcast individually if you didn't opt out of the arbitration terms. In other words, if Comcast burns down your house while installing a new cable outlet, and you agreed to arbitration, then you are still stuck - you have to go to arbitration. The appeals court sent it back to the district court. I expect Comcast will just redo the arbitration clause to remove the class action piece and then reissue the TOS with arbitration for non-class-action suits. And that will satisfy the district court.
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iamcool2

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insight

Insight does the same thing


HFB1217
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Bang Bang that's the sound of Laywers beating at the doors

This will also shoot holes into the credit card industry who were the first to pioneer this legal bull into there TOS as well.
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alalper
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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Word of Warning to Comcast users

I believe you are wrong. While I haven't read the entire opinion, it seems to me that the "the entire arbitration provision is rendered unenforceable" would also apply to individual suits.


Jodokast96
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Re: Where is...

It was sent with the monthly bill.

whocares
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Re: Bang Bang that's the sound of Laywers beating at the doors

but C,C thinks like a lot of companies,

you (as a consumer) are not suppose to be smart enough to sue us,all your suppose to do is give us your $$ and don't say diddley.we'll do what we want to do.
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C0deZer0
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 Serves them right

If they've done me wrong to the point where I feel legal action is in order, I should have every right to do so.

And if enough people around me have gotten the proverbial shaft as well, then we all should be given proper satisfaction.
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DHRacer
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reply to Anonymous_
Re: it needs to be changed to

Wierd. DTV has this arbitration clause...


BryanOnRR

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Re: Serves them right

itnever ends with them, down with comcast
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envoid

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who's a lawyer here?

The TOS is just a binding contract. What enforcement, besides disconnecting you, prevents you from suing Comcast should they actually blow up/burn down your house? Contract law (from my very poor understanding) would be that they can sue you and/or disconnect your service for breaking the agreement. But if they owe you 300k for your home, wouldn't that outweigh any winnings they could receive from this breach of contract? Who's a lawyer that can answer this??


nightdesigns
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Sprint is doing the same

Sprint recently offered me good deal, if I renewed my contract with them and they made mention of an arbitration clause in the new contract.

It was interesting, because they wanted you to be aware of it and clearly printed that part as an * underneath.
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vpoko
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Re: Word of Warning to Comcast users

The class-action clause was found to be unseverable, so the arbitration agreement was thrown out in its entirety.

I know you badly wish for it to be how you said, you'd support a corporation over an individual no matter the circumstances, but Comcast got slapped and there's no other spin you can put on it.


vpoko
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Re: who's a lawyer here?

I'm not a lawyer, but contracts can entail more than monetary damages for breach, courts can also enjoin certain actions by court order. Happens sometimes with non-compete agreements, where a company will obtain a court order to force an ex-employee to honor the agreement. If you still go ahead and do it, you're in contempt and can go to jail.

Of course there would be no contempt here, if the contract had been upheld Comcast could enforce their rights by having cases filed against them summarily dismissed.


Titus Pullo
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Reminds me of Adelphia

when they pulled a rabbit out of their legal dept's arse and wrote in mouseprint at the bottom of a bill one month: "By paying this bill, you agree with the terms in the document at (insert adelphia URL here)."

I was so outraged I turned my TV off and on TEN TIMES!
Then realized there was no one else to get TV from
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viperpa33s
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Violates due process

It violates due process under the law. Though I agree lawsuits are getting out of hand, there is no reason to take away someones ability to sue. Comcast or any other company can't do that even if it's in there TOS.

Comcast wouldn't hesitate to sue if it was in there best interest. Comcast can't change the law, that has to be done by the state legislature or by Congress. I thought arbitration can only be done if both parties agree or arbitration is issued by the court if it's in the best interest of both parties.
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