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Comments on news posted 2007-09-11 11:15:06: [att=1213901,r]You make the most of what you've got. And in the case of one rural user in our forums, that just happens to be HughesNet satellite service and AT&T's wireless "broadband" EDGE network. ..

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L337
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Chicago, IL

Too bad he don't got dsl

Haha niceee


SlickEnW
Premium
join:2003-01-21
Seattle, WA

Wow.

Thats pretty intuitive.

I'd probably would have moved or not been there in the first place, as my first question is usually "who services this place and do they have internet", especially since my job requires me to SSH into a server for maintenance and large downloads.

Drakemoore

join:2005-02-03
Hawthorne, FL

1 recommendation

To ISP's

If you don't build it. They will home brew it


jtudor
Xm 60's On 6 Freak
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-07
Morganton, NC

How Long

I just wonder how long it will be until one or both of them decide that he is violating the TOS, and terminate his service?

Also how long it will be until someone here decides to tell him that he needs to buy a business connection if he is doing any business at home??

I manage servers and desktops from home on occasion (nights, weekends, holidays) using Dameware, and have been told in some forums here that I should be using a business DSL account instead of a residential account, because I am doing business from home.

Otherwise, I applaud his resourcefulness!!
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twizlar
I dont think so.
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Brantford, ON
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said by jtudor:

I manage servers and desktops from home on occasion (nights, weekends, holidays) using Dameware, and have been told in some forums here that I should be using a business DSL account instead of a residential account, because I am doing business from home.

Otherwise, I applaud his resourcefulness!!
True that, some people are narrow sighted idiots, what can you do. The ONLY advantage of most business accounts is an SLA of somesort(usually crappy anyways).
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FFH5
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Tavistock NJ
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reply to Drakemoore

Re: To ISP's

said by Drakemoore:

If you don't build it. They will home brew it
True. But how many will go to this much trouble - 1 in a million customers?
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mikefxu

join:2004-10-05
Titusville, FL

1 edit
reply to jtudor

Re: How Long

Yes you should pay more because it says "business" in the name of the title. Pay for what you need, if you need faster speeds and they only offer it on "business" service levels, go for it, other wise keep what works and is cheap.

We pay for "business class" road runner and they told us it would take a week to fix lines they don't know how to run properly, We paying more for the same residential service for what reason?

Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
reply to jtudor
said by jtudor:

I just wonder how long it will be until one or both of them decide that he is violating the TOS, and terminate his service?

Also how long it will be until someone here decides to tell him that he needs to buy a business connection if he is doing any business at home??

I manage servers and desktops from home on occasion (nights, weekends, holidays) using Dameware, and have been told in some forums here that I should be using a business DSL account instead of a residential account, because I am doing business from home.

Otherwise, I applaud his resourcefulness!!
A business account may have more upload speed.


dcdeadbeat

@covad.net

there is a much easier way to do this

Why didn't you just use a SonicWall TZ190 router with built in WWAN and multiple WAN load-balancing.

It does what you want automatically.

Silly people trying to make life difficult.


verolom

join:2002-03-23
Reston, VA
reply to SlickEnW

Re: Wow.

Speaking of a job, someone should hire that guy. He made lemonade from lemons, that requires talent in this telecom world.


TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
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join:2002-01-25
Gibsonton, FL

How much?

I wonder what his bill is?


STrRedWolf

join:2006-06-18
Severn, MD

Penguins?

Sounds like he could of used a Linux distro for the router.


jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Avon, OH

wow

I will say this guy is truly resourceful. Now he needs to get evdo rev A and see how his speeds are. THis is assuming he gets coverage out there.


hitman_001
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join:2006-11-20
Laredo, TX
reply to TechieZero

Re: How much?

Welp the satellite runs 60+ a month depending on plan, not sure how much ATT charges but its probably in the ballpark of 59.99 to 79.99 a month. Your looking at ~120.00 plus a month to get a connection that "resembles" broadband, and still has the bandwidth caps and latency issues.
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fcisler
Premium
join:2004-06-14
Riverhead, NY
reply to dcdeadbeat

Re: there is a much easier way to do this

said by dcdeadbeat :

Why didn't you just use a SonicWall TZ190 router with built in WWAN and multiple WAN load-balancing.

It does what you want automatically.

Silly people trying to make life difficult.
Possibly because pfSense is free and has many, many more features than SonicWall can offer?

Can the sonicwall route based upon destination IP/Port?

Making life difficult? No

Saving money? Yes

And Are you F'ing nuts? $630 and up?!?!?! Yeah...where a WRAP (looks like what he has) is about $175 MAX (no longer being made) or a Soekris is $150 - $250?

Yes...I think he is trying to make it "harder"

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
reply to hitman_001

Re: How much?

Nah, AT&T data plan is +$30 to +$40 for unlimted. If he can convince them he has a smartphone, then it's only like $10 or $15.

jdjbuffalo

join:2004-01-17
Denver, CO
reply to dcdeadbeat

Re: there is a much easier way to do this

I agree using a dual WAN router is the way to go if you want an easier solution than this guy jerry-rigged.

However, I have to disagree with your recommendation to use a Sonicwall product. From personal experience configuring several, I have to say they are a POS.


hitman_001
Premium
join:2006-11-20
Laredo, TX
reply to jgkolt

Re: wow

in 90% of the cases if a person could get EVDO they wouldnt need the satellite. If you are a freak about download speeds, some areas are more congested on EVDO and offer less bandwidth. However if you live out in unserved areas.. your really not used to getting much of that to begin with. So having the two would be pointless, because you'd have your speed and your much lower latency all in one, and still cut your internet bill in half.
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hitman_001
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Laredo, TX
reply to Ahrenl

Re: How much?

The Data plan part was a guesstimation, I know sprint and verizon are around 59.99 and verizon just recently went to that pricing. Its been a few years since i've used cingular/Att for data.
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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
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cheap housing/land

One reason for living in the boondocks is simple:
cheap land, housing and low taxes (ususally), but the "finer things in life" come at a distance premium such as cheap broadband and... Garbage collection, in many rural areas, you haul your own trash to the recycling center & dump.

Another downside.. is that your nearest fire dept, ambulance and hospital could be 45+minutes away, so if you have an extreme emergency, you may be SOL.


fcisler
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join:2004-06-14
Riverhead, NY

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reply to jdjbuffalo

Re: there is a much easier way to do this

I'd really have to suggest you go see what pfSense is before calling it "jerry-rigged":

»www.pfsense.com/index.php?id=27

Check out some of the screenshots there

Nuts65

join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH
reply to tmc8080

Re: cheap housing/land

Garbage, that's what the burn pile is for.

kwayzcat

join:2002-10-22
Chicago, IL

PFSense is awesome

PFSense is a FREE, full featured routing platform that runs on regular x86 hardware. It has the features of enterprise appliances that cost thousands of dollars. This is a very interesting implementation of dual-wan on PFsense.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PfSense


sporkme
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join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
reply to STrRedWolf

Re: Penguins?

said by STrRedWolf:

Sounds like he could of used a Linux distro for the router.
Why? Just so he could say "it runs Linux"?

This post brought to you by PFSense.


sporkme
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join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
reply to dcdeadbeat

Re: there is a much easier way to do this

said by dcdeadbeat :

Why didn't you just use a SonicWall TZ190 router with built in WWAN and multiple WAN load-balancing.
You're missing the point. The SonicWall can't selectively send traffic out different interfaces like this guy requires. He wants traffic that requires low-latency and little bandwidth to go over the EDGE connection and bulk delay-insensitive traffic to go over the satellite. The SonicWall can't do this, nor can it be modified to do it.

PDXPLT

join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
reply to tmc8080

Re: cheap housing/land

said by tmc8080:

One reason for living in the boondocks is simple:
cheap land, housing and low taxes (ususally), but the "finer things in life" come at a distance premium such as cheap broadband and... Garbage collection, in many rural areas, you haul your own trash to the recycling center & dump.

Another downside.. is that your nearest fire dept, ambulance and hospital could be 45+minutes away, so if you have an extreme emergency, you may be SOL.
LOL, I wish broadband penetration was as good as that for trash collection and emergency services.

We have weekly trash pickup on our block, and the nearest fire station is just down the road. But Verizon's too busy deploying fiber to the most affluent communities in the county, and has stopped deploying DSL to anyone here.


dcdeadbeat

@covad.net

sonicwall tz190 is still the way to go

It features failover, spillover, and load-balancing. And it's very easy to use. That software you mention is just crapware. Go with a company like SonicWall, set it and forget it.

I have used this product in dozens of clients. if they need more power and flexibility, then I take them up to Cisco grade equipment. I don't care what anyone says about software and a rigged together system. Hardware works 24/7. Software...well ...it works when it works. And when it doesn't...then you should have cracked open the wallet. He did say he was using it for work. So get your work to pay for it.

Lazy beats free any day of the week!!!!!!

cmaenginsb1
Premium
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
Actually both the Sonicwall and Cisco's you mention are just modified versions of Linux software.

Sonicwall is a joke, used to recommend them to customers but after being screwed too many times it find it better to use something like PFSense. For l0sers like you who have to have Sonicwall, just modify the web interface so it looks like one and pocket the extra $400 or so it costs.
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MoJeeper
The Stig in 2012
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join:2000-10-20
Springfield, MO
reply to Ahrenl

Re: How much?

59.95 Unlimited


LordFlux

join:2005-04-20

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I feel your pain...

I've been on the Internet since '96 and have been using a 28.8k modem since then up until early this year when we got a Kyocera KPC650 and KR1 Router to use on the Alltel 1xRTT network. Why use a 28.8k instead of a 56k? Ask BellSouth/AT&T... they've been out to the house 4 or 5 times testing my line and they don't understand why my 56k modem won't connect.

Anyway, that's all behind me now... because the area is now EVDO Rev A and we're *flying* at a blazing 500-800kb/sec download rate and a 400ms ping time. Granted, my card is only Rev 0, but I just bought a KPC680 and it should be here next week... Rev A here I come! 1mbit?!?! 300ms ping time?! OMG! I wet myself!

Us rural users take what we can get... which is why I went ahead and had Cox installed in my new house. Moving out of my parents house when I get married in 59 days.