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Comments on news posted 2007-09-11 11:15:06: [att=1213901,r]You make the most of what you've got. And in the case of one rural user in our forums, that just happens to be HughesNet satellite service and AT&T's wireless "broadband" EDGE network. ..

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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
reply to dcdeadbeat

Re: sonicwall tz190 is still the way to go

said by dcdeadbeat :

It features failover, spillover, and load-balancing. And it's very easy to use. That software you mention is just crapware. Go with a company like SonicWall, set it and forget it.
It takes a whole lotta stupid to be that mad at something that's free and offers more features.
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Dogma is the problem.

quantumvoice

join:2006-11-17
Ann Arbor, MI
reply to cmaenginsb1
Actually, if he is referring to Cisco PIX, it is not "linux" based. You may be confused with Cisco's consumer/SOHO grade products from Linksys or it is a recent development.

However, the general point you were trying to make regarding PFSense is valid--both PIX and Sonicwall are software-based.

The functionality is derived from a general purpose CPU and not specialized hardware that provides application-specific functionality which is provided by an ASIC, DSP, etc.

However, even supposedly "hardware" solutions require robust firmware ("software") to exploit their potential.


twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
kudos:3
reply to Joe12345678

Re: How Long

said by Joe12345678:

said by jtudor:

I just wonder how long it will be until one or both of them decide that he is violating the TOS, and terminate his service?

Also how long it will be until someone here decides to tell him that he needs to buy a business connection if he is doing any business at home??

I manage servers and desktops from home on occasion (nights, weekends, holidays) using Dameware, and have been told in some forums here that I should be using a business DSL account instead of a residential account, because I am doing business from home.

Otherwise, I applaud his resourcefulness!!
A business account may have more upload speed.
Meh, sometimes.
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AMD Athlon64 4000+ @ 2723mhz - mountaincable.net wireless Intarweb |
Ipods SUCK


dcdeadbeat

@verizon.net
reply to sporkme

Re: sonicwall tz190 is still the way to go

Quote: It takes a whole lotta stupid to be that mad at something that's free and offers more features.

Stupid, wait...let me check my bank account that stupidity has brought me....7 figures and growing....so I guess not recommending free crapware has made me very rich.

And don't think just because it is linux that it is stable or hack-proof.

And Cisco only uses linux on its VOIP and consumer products. IOS (found on its enterprise firewall and router products) is a hardened operating system and the backbone of the Internet core routers.

But then I am just a wealthy stupid, madman with 20+ years in networking...so I may not know what I am talking about.

For the rest of you out there, buy the SonicWall unless you have the money and expertise and then you should of course go with Cisco. You will be up and running in under 10 minutes. And if you have a problem, they have technical support.

Free products offer, oh wait..limited or no support.

And look at his mess of cables!!

Stupid, wait...let me check my bank account that stupidity has brought me....7 figures and growing....so I guess not recommending free crapware has made me very rich.
When speaking in terms of quality networking software, using the term "crapware" to describe Linux and packages like pfsense shows how ignorant you are... Properly configured and secured, I can make a Linux or BSD box do everything that you can do with a Cisco router and more.

And Cisco only uses linux on its VOIP and consumer products. IOS (found on its enterprise firewall and router products) is a hardened operating system and the backbone of the Internet core routers.
Apparently you don't subscribe to the CERT lists because your statement about IOS being "hardened" is anything but true...

As for manufacturers using Linux... Several competing manufacturers are using OSS as their base router OS. For example, Juniper, which kicks Cisco's ass, is using FreeBSD as the OS on their routers. The CLI is just a userland that runs ON TOP of FreeBSD.

quantumvoice

join:2006-11-17
Ann Arbor, MI

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reply to dcdeadbeat
And Cisco only uses linux on its VOIP and consumer products. IOS (found on its enterprise firewall and router products) is a hardened operating system and the backbone of the Internet core routers.
Actually, Cisco PIX does not run "IOS". The IOS that runs on Cisco's "enterprise" class routing platforms is still using (unprotected) "shared" memory architecture and is constantly plagued by bugs. These bugs are often triggered by certain combinations of features and can turn an upgrade into a nightmarish game of Russian roulette.

However, IOS-XR eliminates the majority of these problems but is only available on a handful of high end carrier class routers (GSR, CRS-1, etc.).


dcdeadbeat

@covad.net

you are all missing the point here--this is not new news

Whether it is Linux or some freeware/crapware based product, the point is that this is not news. Many people are already doing this type of fancy load-balancing, failover, and broadband connection sharing.

This guy should not be given any coverage. Now if he had found a way to combine multiple EDGE connections(while only being charged for one) thereby giving him something closer to broadband, then he should receive coverage.

In other words what I am talking about is using the mesh of cell-phone towers in a given area and creating connections with all of them to form one massive pipe.

Now that would be news worthy. Not some rual user using a router and two internet connections. Been done over and over before. Let's get something new going here.

And for those that called me ignorant: I use Redhat Linux on a daily basis on hundreds of severs. But guess what servers always get hacked....the Linux boxes running freeware. Why because it is free, hackers have access to it. Make it expensive and the hackers can't afford access to it and therefore expensive, proprietary stuff stays hack-free more often.

kwayzcat

join:2002-10-22
Chicago, IL
You are a lousy administrator if your Redhat servers are always getting hacked.

If your last argument is true then why is Windows the most exploited OS on the planet?

The fact is that PFSense does what your precious Sonicwall device does and MORE. I've read the reviews on the TZ190. 20 megabits throughput? Real powerful device you got there. Oh it costs over $500 with a required annual support contract of hundreds of dollars? Geez I'm SHOCKED more people aren't buying this device for their home use! They are clearly morons for not doing so!


dcdeadbeat

@covad.net
You have no idea what you are talking about. The TZ190 does not have any required annual contracts.

And it was not Redhat that got hacked but the crappy free open-source software that got hacked. And yes eventually they get around to patching the holes. But guess what...its free so there is no motivation. There is no motivation to path or support products that don't generate income. So free program can leave you with lousy support and headaches. Just crack open the wallet and pay for quality.

But then again you are missing my point and I doubt you are actually a networking professional because if you were, you would know that $500 is a bargain for a product that works with very little config on your part.

My Windows 2003 servers have never been hacked. Why because I don't run any open-source or freeware/crapware on them.

Just for giggles, I tried your crappy PFSense. Crap, crap, crap. I won't be recommending it any of the 2,000+ clients that pay me $600/hour for consulting.

I don't work for SonicWall, nor do I think that they are the end all be all of networking devices. I use Cisco for my home networking equipment. But then not everyone wants to pay for Cisco quality. So I think other HARDWARE products like the SonicWall are good choices for people.

And again...this is not news.

Notice that you didn't even comment on my idea to bond multiple EDGE channels. Why because you are obsessed with your crappy PFSense software.

I win (as always). You loose.


whocares

@kabelvision.com
If I can afford a decent firewall, I will choose SecureComputing's Sidewinder or Cyberguard.
But if I didn't have $500 and I need a firewall with Multiple-WAN, failover and load-balancing features, so I will choose PFSense.

In this case, I still win and you are loose. :P
Expand your moderator at work


DaveDD

@krline.net
reply to dcdeadbeat

Re: there is a much easier way to do this

The Top Global MB6800 has a 1 x 4 switch built in. Their latest firmware support auto-failover between WAN and WWAN. An advanced version called the MB6800P can do load balance.


NoEDGEforSonicW

@krline.net
reply to dcdeadbeat

Make sure it works before you recommend it

Before you recommend a product, make sure it works with the Option GT Max 7.2 ! Otherwise, you are making a lot of people against the WALL with a useless box.

The MB6800 has the widest datacard support. I have tested several of similar products. Top Global is the only product works with my datacard in Korea.