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Comments on news posted 2007-09-11 14:57:59: [att=1214000,r]With the media's recent rediscovery of Comcast's half-decade old practice of booting high-consumption users, our Comcast forum regulars are running a poll asking just how much bandwidth you consume per month (download an app like DU Me.. ..
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  L337Premium
join:2005-03-10
Chicago, IL | Yikes I think I used about 500gb-1tb per month... | |
| |  Thrudd
join:2004-06-21
Mississauga, ON | Re: Yikes I used 400GB last month - which was a peak - I run usually 200GM a month as of late.  | |
| | | | | Re: Yikes I bought a Lambo in need of rebuilding this summer and I no longer have time to add movies. Besides my 16Tbyte machine is full so I need to do an upgrade. For years, I have been hauling in at 400G/month on my 3 cantenna connections to my neighbors. Finally it has all tappered off as the slow stragglers complete their DL. It has been an obsession and I must say I feel good that I found a way to pause at least for now. The tally to date: over 12k movies, 10k TV shows, and most every cracked progiee except games. I have a very serious addiction to games and I must stay completely away from them. | |
| | | | | | Re: Yikes I cant PM anybody because I am anonomus and I wish to stay that way but this thread starting from my post from rr.com is being filtered out when viewed from an rr.com connection.
But it is clearly posted as viewed from this connection, an At&t DSL connection. Are you aware Time Warner Cable RR is sensoring your content? Or is there some other wierd problem going on. This apparently has been happening to most of my posts at least the past few months and maybe longer. I was thinking DSLR was sensoring my posts until I made this discovery. I just thought I would let you know... | |
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| |  knightmbEverybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN | 300GB Down / 200GB Up - A Month
That's hosting a dozen websites, e-mail, game servers, and 6 Vonage lines. That's for the business also. So just typical company usage is right up there along side some power users. | |
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|  sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
 ·Optimum Online
1 edit | Last two months, average of 10GB down, 4GB up.
I'll take metered, as long as I get a discount. I have no interest in subsidizing the file trading folks. | |
| | | Beylan
join:2001-09-15
Mount Airy, MD | Re: Yikes HAHAHAHA! Discounts, like that is going to happen.
I'm certain that if/when they go to metered service it will be in 'tiered' packages so that the grandmas who use it to check email and surf the web will be paying the same or slightly more than their current amounts.
Something like this:
up to 50gb/month = same as current amount
50-100gb = 2x more
100-150gb = 3x more
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| | | | | They can megabit me to death, I pay plenty for my cable! Bill me more HO's, at least let me write it of in my taxes and with refund I may get a T-5 line and nuke you  ! Maybe make Unkie Sammie Suffer a lil MegaBYTE! lol | |
| | | | Ditto Movies and pirate ya know | |
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 balazone60 billionPremium
join:2002-04-01
Wheeling, WV | Bill by the terrabyte At home with 4 PC's, Wii, XBox 360, VPN and file server I use about 300-400gb per month.
If Comcast wants to bill $50 per terrabyte per month I would be ok with that.  | |
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| I can see it now Per Byte or Per Gigabyte billing. I would be fine with this except we all know that the minute they implement something like that it will be on top of the current flat rate structure.
So the bill will be something like $39.90 per month + $1.00 per Gigabyte over 5 Gigabytes per month.
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| Re: I can see it now Exactly. The base rate will be what you pay now and will likely include some magic number of Gigabytes of transfer the ISP believes is adequate for most users. Then additional usage over the included limit will be extra, and likely something along the lines of $1-$2 a gigabyte.
There are two problems with this structure.
1. What constitutes average/adequate included bandwidth is constantly changing (constantly increasing over time) If 10 GB included is determined to be adequate today, only a year or two from now that number would need to be raised significantly.
2. The cost per gigabyte of wholesale bandwidth is constantly changing. If ISP's really want to start charging for bandwidth consumed, then they should only be allowed to charge for a gigabyte what it costs them wholesale for that gigabyte. And these days, a gigabyte of bandwidth doesn't cost the $1, $2, or even $5-$10 dollars that ISP's insist it costs... A gigabyte of transfer today is literally just a few cents, 5 or 10 at the very most. If the ISP is already charging a base charge for the service, the profit is already figured in. If they charge $1+ per gigabyte on top of that then they are just making a profit off of every file you download, and then what's to stop them from trying to get you to download everything you possibly can? Hell, they would probably try to send out viruses out on their network to infect computers to raise the data usage of all their customers.
So like I said, they can charge for bandwidth consumed, but it has to be at wholesale rates. So that 100 Gigabytes you downloaded this past month really only cost the ISP a few bucks, which was just trimmed off the profit they made from that portion of your bill. It's really only the people who download 500-600 gigabytes that really affect the ISP's profit margin, because that amount of bandwidth essentially eats up all the profit they make on a $40-50 dollar broadband account. 500-600 gigabytes works out to around $20~30 worth of bandwidth. Thus why Comcast cuts off users who go over that magic line in which they become unprofitable. The actual data usage that Comcast goes by most likely varies from market to market because the cost of bandwidth can vary from market to market.
For what its worth, I consume in the neighborhood of 60-100GB per month. That's shared between a whole bunch of computers and people on a home network. If my ISP started charging some rediculus rate of $1+ per gigabyte I'd drop them so fast. But if they only charged what they actually pay for the bandwidth (about 5 cents a gigabyte or less) I wouldn't have much of a problem paying a couple dollars extra at most a month for my usage. I'd just hope that if the base package is still $40 a month, it includes a minimum of 60-100 gigs. Because we all know that most any ISP makes a pretty good profit even off the people that do 100GB per month regularly. It's mainly the extreme cases that really matter to them. | |
| |  plkLil' Duffer Burger BarnPremium
join:2002-04-20
Ogden, IA | This ties in to the Net Neutrality debate.
I think sale by the megabyte is in the future regardless if the Bells etc can charge the big providers. Their not going to take that extra income and build a better faster internet as they claim, they will only buy servers to limit the bandwidth they have now.
What they will do, is charge per gig for web sites they do not partner with and not limit content of their own.
This will force folks to use only their services and content and partners quickly killing off the vast majority of other providers and small upstarts.
Real BROADBAND content will be provided by a small hand full of providers looking more like cable TV.
And like others mentioned... service will still start at 39.99 a month with the first 5 gigs for free. With 3-4 providers this wouldn't last....but with Neutrality in place, least we will have a better chance of keeping the Internet we have. We will have better control of what we get if we control where we go and what we want.
Anyway you look at it, YOUR going to pay for the improvements to the Internet to come. From my prospective, price per gig might be a better route then what may become of the Net if we don't keep the pipes dumb.
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join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN | wtf? "This looming surge in demand has the industry once again suggesting that it's time to migrate to a "bill by the byte" business model."
Please whoever this person, i hope their not in charge of anything, A moron like that has no business in broadband.
I find it sad that people are paying less than 40/month for a 100/100mbps connection without limits over seas, and here we are where companys like Comcast lie to their very own customers about their practices and even are going against the LAW serving their customers.
Then when confronted about shutting off their service for going over the limit, customer asks, "Well whats the limit then." Comcast= Just don't go over the limit. *click*
I get good Comcast HSI service but their way of business and speed tiers are really starting to push me away. | |
| | | | Re: wtf? You know what I'm sick of? People comparing what people overseas get, knocking down reviews and bitching and moaning, when the environment is nothing alike.
Guess what, most overseas ISPs charge by the bit for data. Telenet.be gives you 20 Mbps speed, and 35GB of transfer for only €61 a month. For those keeping score, that's $85 US. All in a country about the size of Maryland, with a much higher population density and almost 100% cable penetration.
Once people stop cherry picking places that make for ease of deployment and unusually cheap bandwidth, e.g. Korea, Japan, they find that the US pricing scheme is very reasonable. | |
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3 edits | Re: wtf? In strong contrast, many of our larger cities are more dense than theirs. Isn't that ironic? Guess what, most isps in those countries DO NOT have caps. Sweden, Japan, Italy, Finland, Korea, etc etc all have fiber and no caps. Want to toss out that argument that they are subsidized. Go for it. I will then counter that our tax dollars SUBSIDIZE the teclos and cable companies in terms of tax breaks and incentives to build out. Par for par, we pay more than most and get far less.
Population Density by country if anyone is curious:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co···_density
By City:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_se···_density
As you can see.. the argument that we are less dense than other countries is a fallacy. The U.S. is more dense than Sweden, Norway, Finland. Sweden as we all know is one of the top countries int he world for fiber. Better yet, many of our cities are more dense than some of the largest around. | |
| | | |  halfbandPremium
join:2002-06-01
Huntsville, AL
·Comcast
| Re: wtf? So why don't all countries have virtually free broadband without any caps. Australia, the US, all of them. If is so easy to do, it would have been done by now right?
I know that in my area none of the cable systems are subsidised by the government. The government does however get the franchise fees from the cable companies.
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| | | | | | | Re: wtf? Well directly or indirectly, all ISPS are subsidized. They are given tax breaks, incentives, or exclusive access to areas for building out. I am sure if you dig a bit deeper, you will find this to be true with your ISP, too. So why are they capped? Greed.... lack of competition... etc. ISPS who rule an area are free to set their price and limit. The minute competition comes around, their tune usually changes. Hence, without competition, no innovation or improvements happen. It's just a shame ISPS in U.S. aren't offering 10/10 to spark a bandwidth war. They all seem to offer the same low crap. It's just a matter of will you or will you not be capped. | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by ztmike:"This looming surge in demand has the industry once again suggesting that it's time to migrate to a "bill by the byte" business model." Please whoever this person, i hope their not in charge of anything, A moron like that has no business in broadband. I find it sad that people are paying less than 40/month for a 100/100mbps connection without limits over seas, and here we are where companys like Comcast lie to their very own customers about their practices and even are going against the LAW serving their customers. Then when confronted about shutting off their service for going over the limit, customer asks, "Well whats the limit then." Comcast= Just don't go over the limit. *click* I get good Comcast HSI service but their way of business and speed tiers are really starting to push me away. re: comcast, I wonder if the RST forged packets will be free or they'll have a "reduction in service FEE" if they decide they need to make your service crappy because you use P2P
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| | | | said by ZTMIKEI find it sad that people are paying less than 40/month for a 100/100mbps connection without limits over seas, and here we are where companys like Comcast lie to their very own customers about their practices and even are going against the LAW serving their customers.
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| | macguy1
join:2007-08-18
Bloomfield, NJ | You're right. I find it absolutely ridiculous that america can't get those kinds of speeds for those prices. It's just stupid.
I think it boils down to the ISPs trying to make as much profit as possible, while spending as little as possible. Now, I know that's how a business makes money, but when you're lieing to customers, restricting what they can do with their internet connection, and refusing to tell them what your invisible limits are, it's time to wake the hell up.
I'm glad I'm of off comcast now, but I know my ISP is probably using some forum of traffic shaping. Even if I don't even use bit torrent, I don't like ISPs doing this. Hopefully soon ISPs will wake up, and get with the times. America is one of the wealthiest countries in the world, yet we can't get internet connections as countries in europe, or places like japan. | |
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| | a lot I use about 120GB down and 130GB up with AT&T DSL 6/768 | |
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|  shollingPremium
join:2002-02-13
Hemet, CA
kudos:1
·Verizon FiOS
| By the byte? No way! By the byte is a silly idea intended to force users into an AOL like walled garden. The real answer is to expect speed tiers to reflect usage level. No one that just emails and surfs the web signs up for a 10mb $60/mo Internet connection, and no one has a right to expect to download 200GB/mo over a $15/mo 768k connection. When someone is paying a premium for a 10-15mb connection the ISP has no right to tell them that they cannot use at least 50% of that advertised bandwidth unless they say up front that there is a xxx GB/mo cap. I'd go so far as to say that with dedicated services like DSL or FIOS that any cap is a consumer fraud.
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| | dlopez
join:2001-01-07
Miami, FL | Re: By the byte? No way! Why do I get the feeling they want to raise there rate's? | |
| | | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: By the byte? No way! said by dlopez:Why do I get the feeling they want to raise there rate's? REmove the BBR doom and gloom spin and you won't have that feeling.
If ANYONE is paying attention, it's PHONE that has been crying about how their bandwidth is used and not cable. Phone didn't start crying about how their bandwidth and how it was used and by who until about the same time they decided they wanted to price their DSL at around the $12.99 starting point.. and to make it worse and more clear what is happening, they priced it that low in an attempt to take customers from cable..
So, in the process of all of this, telephone, as usual, plays dirty pool and then cries about it.
Cable, at least the big boy Comcast, has not raised it's pricing point in several years on HSI. Do they boot the top gross offenders? Yup.. do those people make noise? Yup! Do they KNOW that they downloaded a lot? Sure.. Do they care? Nope.. and do other customers who just want a stable connection for the money they pay for care that gross offenders are getting the boot? MOST do not even know, and wouldn't care.
Price hikes? Not likely... the phone company loves to throw in their customer controls, contracts, and 20 pages of terms and penalties... but a price hike? I doubt it.
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 jgkoltPremium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH | europe Europe just got off this model and are switching to flat rate like we have. | |
| |  swhx7Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia | Re: europe said by jgkolt:Europe just got off this model and are switching to flat rate like we have.
Because people hated by-the-byte. It's always this way. Give people a choice, they prefer flat rate.
said by writeup :
Will users tolerate the migration to a bill-by-the-byte business model? That depends entirely on how much bandwidth they're eating each month.
I don't think so. It's not because of the amounts (of traffic or money) that people like flat rate. It's because they want their bills to be predictable, and to avoid having the constant worry about cost interfering with their internet experience. | |
| | | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: europe Because people hated the by the byte model is not why it changed... they were restrictive, like Australia still is today, because of limited resources... therefore, they had to put in controls to ensure the system didn't come to a halt. They were able to loosen up on that because as time has changed, more capacity and better infrustructure was put in place to handle the load/needs.
In any monopoly where there really is no competition, the customer really is the last one they listen to.
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 Jwobot
join:2002-08-14
Sterling Heights, MI | Sale Ad's My ISP says:
Ultra 6.0 Mbps
The ultimate! Get that edge for on-line gaming. Stream video in minutes, not hours with our Ultra speed that⦡mp;#128;™s up to 100 times faster than dial up. Download large pictures in seconds, video clips in less than three minutes, and large feature-length films in about 20 minutes.* Our Ultra speed is the perfect choice for customers accessing video-rich website content.
Upload Speed 512kbps.
I have seen comcast ad's on tv that say pretty much the same thing. Why would they tell us to do this stuff if they complain about users doing it? | |
| |  NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
 ·Site5.com
·Comcast
 ·Callcentric
| Re: Sale Ad's said by Jwobot:My ISP says: Ultra 6.0 Mbps The ultimate! Get that edge for on-line gaming. Stream video in minutes, not hours with our Ultra speed that⦡mp;#128;™s up to 100 times faster than dial up. Download large pictures in seconds, video clips in less than three minutes, and large feature-length films in about 20 minutes.* Our Ultra speed is the perfect choice for customers accessing video-rich website content. Upload Speed 512kbps. I have seen comcast ad's on tv that say pretty much the same thing. Why would they tell us to do this stuff if they complain about users doing it? Theres a difference between saying you can do it and saying you can max out your line 24/7 365 days a year. | |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | I try... ... but there just isn't anything worth downloading.  Usually just under 30GB per month
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| |  MSaukMSaukPremium
join:2002-01-17
Sandy, UT | Re: I try... lol so far I am at around 3 gigs going on a month! wtf are you guys downloading lol
maybe my stat meter is wrong? I use mac so not sure this thing is accurate
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| | | dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18
1 edit | Re: I try... said by MSauk:lol so far I am at around 3 gigs going on a month! wtf are you guys downloading lol maybe my stat meter is wrong? I use mac so not sure this thing is accurate A few DVD rips(XviD @ ~700MB ea), the normal streaming VeohTV/Joost/Music/???
Maybe a game demo or three...
Various uploads and/or downloads to/from my server.
People hitting 200+GB? Uhm, yeah.
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| | | almost 400... damn!
its comcastic! | |
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 N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1 | Comcast is such BS.... OK, so it's obvious that Comcast monitors, and keeps a database of how much downloading people are doing.
So, it's really simple. Advise people of how much they are allowed to download, and make it easy for them to know how much they've downloaded so far. A link someplace after you log into Comcast.net would be easy enough.
This way people could keep track of how much they download, and stay within limits.
Or instead, you could advertise your service as "unlimited" and when someone busts your invisible cap, send them a nastygram, and then cancel their service.
In other words, be a dick.....
Like I said before, it's like a cop writing you a speeding ticket where no speed limit is posted. How the hell do you know what the limit is if they don't post it?
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 RxdoxxPremium,Mod
join:2000-11-03
Middle River, MD
kudos:6
Software
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| I see a problem The problem I see is the overselling that I have seen reported with providers, and specifically Comcast.
Since they know some/most people are not going to use what is available, they can sell/add more people to a node, similar to restaurants/airlines deliberately overbooking because they expect no-shows.
Now if things go to a price structure based on consumption, then they will have to implement it as some kind of price increase/add on, otherwise the money they now gather from the "no-shows" will disappear, if the new rates truly reflect an actual usage and are not a usage-penalty add-on.
This could easily become another way to grab more money without any service added. But it is a great idea if it really does lower prices for the minimum users, I'm not holding my breath....
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|  CabalPremium
join:2007-01-21
Austin, TX
·Suddenlink
| Hate to piont out the obvious, but... The problem obviously is that such "extreme" usage isn't going to seem quite so extreme in just a few years.
And the floating caps that bite the top 0.01% of users grows with time. 5 years ago, Comcast kicked off people who did 100-150 GB a month. Now you won't hear a thing before 400-500 GB or more.
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| | | Pure Flat Rate is Dumb... ...except for low end (grandparents email) and high end (24x7x31 100% use) and both need to be priced accordingly.
For everyone in the middle, ISPs need to transition to a model with 3 components: average use, peak use and time of day. I suspect that all those TV users in the evening don't compare to daytime business use, but who knows? Peak TOD could be 8AM-10AM.
Speed is nothing more than a proxy for bandwidth use and it's one that doesn't work very well. | |
| | | | Re: Pure Flat Rate is Dumb... There's still probably going to be some sort of flat rate even if they adopt this method. I can see them charging 15-20 for the service and charges that include 5GB of traffic and then charge per GB after that... | |
| | Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | said by travelguy:...except for low end (grandparents email) and high end (24x7x31 100% use) and both need to be priced accordingly. For everyone in the middle, ISPs need to transition to a model with 3 components: average use, peak use and time of day. I suspect that all those TV users in the evening don't compare to daytime business use, but who knows? Peak TOD could be 8AM-10AM. Speed is nothing more than a proxy for bandwidth use and it's one that doesn't work very well. You just stated the reason there will never be a pure per byte rate. Providers need a predictable revenue stream as well as a way to charge the bandwidth hogs more. | |
| | | | | Re: Pure Flat Rate is Dumb... said by Sammer:You just stated the reason there will never be a pure per byte rate. Providers need a predictable revenue stream as well as a way to charge the bandwidth hogs more. Right! Except that I think there is a valid model...
ISPs are a classic example of a business where the fixed costs are the majority of the expense and the variable costs are minimal. Just like the airlines, when times are good margins are fantastic, and when times are bad, margins suck. The difference is that ISPs do not have to deal with a huge capital investment.
So, you structure a pricing scheme that covers your administrative costs plus a share of the fixed (ie pipeline costs to upstream providers and peers). Base it on an average bandwidth use per month. Peak hours (however you want to define them) get a per byte surcharge. Exceed your average (i.e. monthly quota), get hit with some additional charges or take a low flow lifeline until the end of the month. Exceed an hourly amount, get another charge.
Given that kind of pricing model, connection speed is immaterial. In fact, it would be in the ISPs best interest to get everyone the fattest pipe possible as it increases the potential the users will generate more revenue. | |
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| | | | Re: Not that much... AFAIK, Verizon still doesn't have caps for DSL. 3/768 here as well waiting for FIOS to come to my community. | |
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salahx
join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO | Unlikely to be representative I'd take these numbers with grain of salt (actually, a entire can of Morton's) as DSLR's membership is not representative of typical broadband users.
So: Lies, damn lies, and DSLR polls. Your milage may very, do not taunt happy fun ball, "When it rains, she gets wet", and so forth. | |
|  bencPremium
join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL
·Charter
| That's Awful I, for one, won't stand for it. I'm not interested in any Internet service that isn't flat rate. I don't know how much I use, but I shouldn't have to count it.
The only cap I can tolerate is one that's a technical limitation. In that sense, every connection has a cap. What do I mean? 53.3K is the FCC imposed limit on dial-up, so:
53.3Kbps x 60s/min. x 60m/h x 24h/day x 365.26d/yr. x 1yr/12mos. x 1KB/8kilobits x 1M/1,024KB = 17,110MB/mo., or about 16.7GB.
So, in a sense every dial-up connection has a cap of 16.7GB, assuming you get the theoretical maximum speed the whole time and use it 24/7. To figure the theoretical limit on any other connection, just substitute 53.3Kbps with the Kbps rating of your connection.
For T1 (1,544Kbps) the theoretical limit is 484GB.
5Mbps: 1,605GB (1.6TB)
10Mbps: 3,210GB (3.2TB)
50Mbps: 16,051GB (16.0TB)
OC-192: 3,088,784GB (3,016TB; 2.946PB) - ISP backbone, if anyone cares.
That sort of cap I can, indeed have to tolerate, because of technical limitations.
However, I can't stand the idea of artificial caps. What really burns me is when people don't even know they exist. Only recently was it revealed that Verizon Wireless EV-DO had a tiny 5GB limit, making it unsuitable for PCs though still enough for smartphones.
I don't see why it's even necessary when they've said themselves that most people don't even use a whole lot.
Thankfully, there aren't any caps on my connection that I'm aware of, although I use Charter Business HSI. It's also 1.5Mbps, so my absolute max is 484GB, so I guess I use less than that.
I also feel that caps will stifle the Internet if people are afraid of "busting their limit." | |
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| | what about the cell phone model xP 100 GB a month for $40/month
200 GB a month for $60/month
1 TB a month for $100/month
$5/10 GB overage (can retroactively upgrade service plan if overage occurs).
etc.
Depending on peak usage times... either free nights and weekends or the inverse of that... free business hours for residential services.
And a guarantee of the most number of bars anywhere
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| | | and I vote for flat rate electric I mean, the service to my home will support 200 amps, I should be allowed to use all of that capacity all the time for the same flat rate as everyone else!
Ditto for cell phones! What's with all this 'minutes' stuff!
And water too! The pipes to my house can deliver 100 gallons/hour, I should be allowed to use all that capacity all the time for a flat rate, too!
And all restaurants should be 'all you can eat' for a single price, too. 
yadda yadda yadda
It's all so unfair! I want to saturate an OC3 for 20 rupee a month! | |
| |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| Re: and I vote for flat rate electric said by anomynous :
I mean, the service to my home will support 200 amps, I should be allowed to use all of that capacity all the time for the same flat rate as everyone else! That would mean that Broadband providers would have to submit to regulated rates like those utilities.
IE, The broadband would only cost you WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS plus a service/delivery fee.
Actually... That might work out ok, because bandwidth is wayyyy cheaper then that...
Still, you'd be damaged by other people's bugs, hacks, spam, Ads, etc. Nope. Just won't work.
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