 Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| make ads with sound and video illegal then too i dont mind totally unobtrusive ads as i can ignore them just like a TV ad or a billboard or any other normal means of advertising. this type of advertising is what makes me want to block ads. non annoying methods do exist that still generate money and dont make users want to block.
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jjoshua
Premium
join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Comcast
| What's the problem? If any web site responds to my http request, then that's the end of the discussion.
If the web site doesn't want to respond to my http request because I have not downloaded an ad from a web site then that's their perogative.
A web site cannot force me to download something that I don't want to. | |
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Gogo1
join:2004-05-27
Brooklyn, NY
1 edit | What about if metered internet becomes the norm though? I dont think it is likely, but it is possible that residential users could end up having to pay by the byte. Would sites and ad companies still feel they have the right to serve us these ads and demand no blocking?
I should think even the non-intrusive ads represent 50%+ of the download when viewing most sites. Even though that number is pulled from my ass, it cant be an insignificant amount of data whatever it is. | |
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avantare
Go Tribe
join:2000-02-16
Farmington, MI
| Freedom of speech issue? I think it is. They're 'speaking'. I just choose not to 'listen'. How can they legislate that? They can't.
Besides, if I want to purchase something I can search for it on the 'net.
I love Firefox, Adblock + and NoScript and will continue to use them. The ad companies can kiss my a**.
Chuck
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shortckt
Watchen Das Blinken Lights
Premium
join:2000-12-05
Tenant Hell
| Unintended consequences... If the ad industry tries to push the legality of users blocking ads from websites, they won't go after the users themselves as it's too many moving targets. Instead they will go after the makers of ad blocking software, and that must include MS itself, as their web browser and OS have popup blocking and site blocking abilities. How many organizations representing the advertisers have the size and legal ability to go after MS?
Looking forward however, and keeping in mind the sometimes insane and logic defying things that become law, if something like that were to become law;
1-the ad blocking industry could respond by making software that retrieves the ad data but gives the user the choice to display it or put it in the bit bucket. Since the setting is changed by the end user after installing the ad block sw the ad blocking creators distance themselves from that choice.
2-a collection of users who pay for their bandwidth by the byte file a class action against the ad industry and/or websites that force ads upon those users.
3-after such a law is passed any ad server operator who hosts ads with malicious content (virus/spyware) is sued for liability for damage to computers that are now forced to download and display those ads. Remember that now it is load/view ads at will, if there is a law it also implies a greater level of responsibility (bailment) on the ad provider.
Let's not forget that laws passed in one country are difficult or impossible to enforce in another.
This is a technical problem in search of a solution, and let's hope the site operators think it through lest they alienate their own user base and end up eroding the very revenue stream they are trying to protect.
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 | Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| Re: Unintended consequences... also the biggest adblock plugin is open source so no laws can stop it. they can go after the maker but if someone in Canada continues the code base the advertisers are screwed as US laws dont apply there. or Pirate Bay will make an ad blocker lol.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | Whiffer! Some of y'all are missing the point here...
NO ad blocking software of any kind is needed!
BROWSERS can blacklist addresses.
BROWSERS can disable Flash.
BROWSERS can disable images.
Y'all going to outlaw browsers? Slight flaw there...
No browser no seea da site! Site foldses.
No more ad plasterization...
*I* don't use any ad blocker, no Firefox so no AdBlocker Plus!
I let the browser itself(Opera/SlimBrowser) Blacklist the sites/servers.
Me no seea da ads! 
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dl0711
join:2004-06-27
London, ON
| POP-UP ads should also be illegal ads are ok for me.. but what I DO NOT LIKE are the sites that have pop-ups.. I mean some site have Pop-Ups that pop-up more then 1 pop-up at a time. Ive seen a few sites that have about 3-5 pop-ups just by going to there home page.. so i say ad blocking should be illegal but POP-UP ads should also be illegal. | |
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Old Faithful
@securenet.net | Stop taking Consumers for Idiots Advice to the advertisers: stop taking us for idiots and screaming through the top of your lungs and we may actually want to see your commercials. | |
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