zipjay
join:2003-03-11
Louisville, KY | wow...
thats like in the middle of nowhere |
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DrModem
Premium
join:2006-10-19
USA
1 edit | way it should be. the city boys have enough options. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| So much for the lie that rural broadband is unprofitable ...
This isn't suprising -- the small telcos have a much better track record for broadband penetration in their territories than do the big ILEC's.
Those of us in rural areas served by the likes of Verizon, by contrast, remain SOL. While they spend tens of billions on deploying TV to their most affluent customers, they refuse to spend even a small portion of that to bring BB to more of their customer base. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | I don't believe they posted their internal numbers on profitability and how much they're relying on the USF.
Though, I don't believe they have a lot of competition to deal with either. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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| How will they make money doing this?
How do they plan on making money after building a 10 gig fiber ring given that they only have 17,000 subs? They even mention that only half of their subs will be reached by the new network. I would be interested in seeing the numbers associated with this project!
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
1 edit | said by wifi4milez  :They even mention that only half of their subs will be reached by the new network. No, they said only half will get IPTV. This sounds like a FTTN project; only those close enough to a node for high-enough speeds on ADSL2+ will get TV, I guess.
Since they're not a publicly-traded corporation, all they need to do is not lose money. They don't need to maximize ROI in order to make Wall St. happy.
USF funds aren't available to fund broadband, except to schools. It's only for basic telephony. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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| said by PDXPLT :said by wifi4milez :They even mention that only half of their subs will be reached by the new network. No, they said only half will get IPTV. This sounds like a FTTN project; only those close enough to a node for high-enough speeds on ADSL2+ will get TV, I guess. Since they're not a publicly-traded corporation, all they need to do is not lose money. They don't need to maximize ROI in order to make Wall St. happy. USF funds aren't available to fund broadband, except to schools. It's only for basic telephony. Forget about maximizing ROI, I am more curious about how they plan on not losing money by doing this. While they are not a public company, they still need to make money in order to survive. 10 gig rings are not cheap (even from a wholesale perspective) here in NYC, I cant even imagine the cost to deploy one in a very rural area! I am not saying this cant be done, I would just really like to see the business plan and look at the numbers to understand how they are going to make it work.
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His Eazyness
@mis.net | In the interest of accuracy...
Time Warner is the cable provider in Mountain Telephone's service area, but they currently do not offer any broadband options. |
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MrMoody
Carbon Based Lifeform
join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC | reply to wifi4milez
Re: How will they make money doing this?
I'm guessing they're getting some sort of help from ConnectKentucky. |
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MrMoody
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join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC
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Re: In the interest of accuracy...
I'm sure it's some 20+ year old one-way system with crappy, fuzzy, weak analog signal that TW won't upgrade which would explain why everyone is clamoring for IPTV.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to bogey780
Re: So much for the lie that rural broadband is unprofitable ...
I agree... I wonder how much of this is paid for through USF slush fund.
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mogooder
join:2002-11-26
Washougal, WA | reply to wifi4milez
Re: How will they make money doing this?
Its a Co-op, Its not about making money.
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tschmidt
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join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
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said by wifi4milez :How do they plan on making money after building a 10 gig fiber ring given that they only have 17,000 subs? From the article it sounds like they are building their own ring. My guess is while the fiber is designed to support 10G most likely initial build-out will not fully utilize it. The important aspect it building the ring itself.
From the article sounds like they are going with Remote Terminals to reduce copper distance and allow them to deliver DSL where they would normally not be able to do so. At the same time upgrade copper outside plant (OSP). Much better to install fiber then copper. The fiber will allow them to serve more customers and generate additional revenue.
IPTV is only going to be available to customers near the RT due to copper limitations.
While I would rather see a Verizon approach of rolling out a FTTP network seems like these guys have struck a reasonable balance of capital cost vs new services. Nothing wrong with bootstrapping.
/Tom |
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His Eazyness
@mis.net | reply to MrMoody
Re: In the interest of accuracy...
Karl has updated his article, rendering my post redundant.
And, MrMoody, you are absolutely wrong. The signal is only fuzzy half the time.  |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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Re: How will they make money doing this?
said by mogooder :Its a Co-op, Its not about making money. mogooder Co-op or not, they still need to make money or the organization will cease to exist.
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AMDonUT2004
join:2006-06-12
Bedford, VA | if they can get it
let them have it and enjoy the FTTH Tv and nice broadband and more competition on top of that |
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Alakar
Facts do not cease to exist when ignored
join:2001-03-23
Milwaukee, WI
·AT&T U-Verse
| Maybe they have a State contract?
Checking the area it looks like there is a fairly large state prison complex located in West Liberty. Maybe they have a contract with the state that will help fund the fiber ring.
»www.corrections.ky.gov/ekcc/about/
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