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| Cable scores in 2009
With the lack of converters in 2009 cable subscribers numbers go way up, because of local broadcasts on cable.
Thank you, Mr. Obvious 
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| Alfred E. Newman???
Alfred E. Newman |
WOW, I had no idea he was real.
Why is he running the FCC in the first place, and making my perfectly good TV sets obsolete??
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| said by KA3SGM  :That's the guy from MAD magazine. 
WOW, I had no idea he was real. Why is he running the FCC in the first place, and making my perfectly good TV sets obsolete?? LOL. Good pick up. They do look alike.
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Jmartz
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said by KA3SGM :Why is he running the FCC in the first place, and making my perfectly good TV sets obsolete?? Because it's time to catch up with the rest of the world. Your TV will still work, with a VCR, Gaming Console, DVD Player, etc. If you want over the air reception, you will need to get a box. But if you subscribe to cable, you'll still have plenty of analog choices to chose from... but Cable is going the same way... 3 years after Feb 2009, you'll probably be missing a lot of analog stuff on your cable system... again, to make room for new technology. Analog holds things back because it just takes up too much space... having a 100% digital system with no analog at all will enable your cable company to offer a lot more than they currently do.
Cable companies have been going after analog subscribers for a while. Cablevision booted all PPV and premiums off analog nearly 2 years ago... and because they did that, they are able to offer us nearly 40 HD channels. |
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sporkme
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1 edit | That Picture...
Something about that picture makes him look extremely shifty. By shifty, I mean, you walk into a swanky hotel room and there's lines of coke on the glass coffee table... there's blood splattered here and there, and then in the bathroom there's two dead hookers in the bathtub. You turn around and see Martin in the corner of the room with a bloodied LodgeNet keyboard which he has obviously used to bludgeon the hookers until their brains oozed out.
I mean, that's just what I get when I look at the guy.
edit: oh yeah, and the hookers are provided by the telco lobbyists |
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Techie714
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Anaheim, CA | Kill your TV
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Re: Alfred E. Newman???
This is the same argument that was spewed to the masses when Clinton was telling the USA that we would have 40mb speeds in a decade. "It's time to catch up"....please. The analog to digital transition from Comcast alone in the Chicagoland area has been at best somewhere between a Clusterf*** and FUBAR!
Now our gov't is doling out converters and expecting this to be a smooth transition?
I can see it now...an immediate appropriations bill that pays freaksquad billions of dollars help in this pending disaster!
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What a bunch of meaningless babble. He supports both sides of everything. |
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dvd536
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Re: Kill your TV
said by Techie714 :The day TV died......The U.S. found itself again.... TV died the day they introduced the "Program length commercial" also known as "paid programming".
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BF69
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Camden, TN
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Re: Alfred E. Newman???
said by KA3SGM :Why is he running the FCC in the first place, and making my perfectly good TV sets obsolete?? You realize that the law that mandated the end of analog TV transmissions was passed in the early-mid 90's when Martin was just barely out of college. |
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BF69
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Camden, TN
| reply to ARGONAUT
Re: Cable scores in 2009
said by ARGONAUT :With the lack of converters in 2009 cable subscribers numbers go way up, because of local broadcasts on cable. Thank you, Mr. Obvious Where do you get there will be a lack of converters? Not to mention than anyone that bought a new 27 inch or higher TV since March 2006 or smaller since March 2007 already has a converter built inside their Tv. |
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Re: Alfred E. Newman???
said by BF69 :You realize that the law that mandated the end of analog TV transmissions was passed in the early-mid 90's when Martin was just barely out of college. Well evidently he learned very little in College.
He doesn't know what a corporate monopoly is, only that he got paid some serious money from corporate lobbyists to create one.
Public relations studies?? Why don't I go more than a few days without talking with someone that has ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA that this Analog to Digital switchover affects them.
Digital TV is only an option right?? No sorry it's mandatory. HUH??!!! WTF???
That's the typical reaction from those that are not very tech savvy. The elderly?? Forget it.
They largely have no clue, the unfortunate members of the rabbit ears generation.
Black & White to Color, the B/W sets still worked.
Addition of UHF channels, the VHF still worked.
Addition of Closed Captioning, the old set still worked.
Introduction of MTS Stereo and SAP audio, the old set still worked.
Shut down of Analog broadcasting?? Well, so much for the OLD set, unless you understand what an why it happened, and you still need some tech knowlege to install the new converters.
CONVERTERS WHICH ARE STILL NOT READILY AVAILABLE, AND NOT FOR $40 OR LESS
Kevin Martin is the guy that can twist arms to hit the brakes on this, and give it until at least 2011, long enough to better educate the public, get the converters out there that are cheap and working, and assure no one gets left in the dust on this.
Unfortunately, he will unlikely lift a finger, unless it is to endorse another paycheck from Industry Lobbyists.
We are more likely to see him vote to approve AT&T's acquisition of Qwest and Alltel, and Verizon's acquisition of AT&T, before he would ever consider him doing something for the sensible benefit of the American Public.
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Re: Cable scores in 2009
said by BF69 : Where do you get there will be a lack of converters? Not to mention than anyone that bought a new 27 inch or higher TV since March 2006 or smaller since March 2007 already has a converter built inside their Tv. The oldest TV in my house is a 1964 vintage Zenith B/W set that I restored, and it does get used everyday.
Most recent TV's are 3-5 years old, 10 years old, and 17 years old.
I have 2 HD sets that are not an issue here, but I do have 3 kids that each have their own TV, in addition to the ones myself or my wife might be watching.
I earn too much to even qualify for the 2 $40 coupons, so I need to purchase 6 of those 'theoretical' $50-$75 converters, or rent cable boxes, to continue the use of those Tv's.
What happens if the converter boxes end up being in short supply, and are in the $100+ range.
This is indisputably an unfunded mandate on the American public.
At the very least, might you know what line on the IRS 1040A form I should enter the cost of the converters on.
If I have to put up the money myself, at the very least, I am not paying any Federal Income Tax on the money spent for the converters, or Cable TV box rentals, to keep my perfectly fine Analog TV's functioning.
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raybrett
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Re: Alfred E. Newman???
If you want digital cable you need a box or some form of conversion. And we don't have to wait for Feb 2009 to miss the analog stuff. Charter has just lopped another channel from the analog expanded basic lineup with no corresponding drop in price. I have too many TVs (mostly old) to put a digital box on each so I will keep the analog for a while. I do have an HD TV, but it doesn't get digital cable so it would require a box. It does get over the air digital, but reception is so lousy that I rarely attempt to view it. When I first got that TV, I was 3-6 miles from the local stations and still couldn't get a decent signal with an indoor antenna. There wasn't (maybe still isn't) anything interesting enough to go for the outdoor antenna. |
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Re: Kill your TV
said by dvd536 :TV died the day they introduced the "Program length commercial" also known as "paid programming". I second that statement. |
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tbone2006
join:2006-07-22
Abilene, TX
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Re: Cable scores in 2009
said by KA3SGM :
I earn too much to even qualify for the 2 $40 coupons, so I need to purchase 6 of those 'theoretical' $50-$75 converters, or rent cable boxes, to continue the use of those Tv's. Where did you get that if you make too much money you can't get a coupon? According to the dtvtransition websiteany household can get a converter box income does not matter. |
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I got a made-in-USA 1994 Zenith set that works just fine and gets 10+ channels of OTA with my trusty RatShack rabbit ears. It'll be working most likely after the avarage new T.V. made in Taiwan self-destructs.
(more channels than that actually, but I don't count TBN and HSN as I don't watch that)
Cable, HD, Digital, et al, blah. I neither need nor can afford all that crap.
I won't be watching any of that and have never had Cable. Since when is HD and Cable a necessity for life in this country? Aren't the airwaves free anymore?
Sure, I'm on SS/SSI and will get a voucher for a converter...but none of it benefits me at all...it's just a PITA.
Only those people who've got the bucks for the newfangled gear and services get anything from it. Adding more HD channels dosen't mean diddly to me since I don't use Cable or have a HD set.
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ARGONAUT
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Re: Cable scores in 2009
Purchase a digital-to-analog converter box that plugs into an existing television. The boxes, which are expected to cost between $50 - 70 will be available for purchase in 2008. Beginning on January 1, 2008, U.S. households can request up to two coupons valued at $40 each. I don't see who is supplying these coupons?
And why should I re-pay too view public transmissions?
Again, cable wins here.
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