tim_k
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Stewartstown, PA | We'll see
“The code is supposed to be unhackable..."
Famous last words?
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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clubs: | thats what they said about the DigiCipher for c band.
Its still not cracked(that i know about). That came out in what 1997. |
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Nightshade
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Salem, OR | reply to tim_k
But of course, now it will only take a week to hack the code instead of a month cause they made that statement.
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milnoc
join:2001-03-05
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1 edit | reply to hayabusa3303
The fact the encryption hasn't been broken yet is misleading. Pirates usually start by cracking the encryption that's the easiest to break, and only work on harder encryption methods when the content supported by the previous encryption is no longer satisfactory. For example, as long as Dish and ExpressVu continue to use the cracked Nagravision encryption, there's no reason for satellite pirates to crack encryptions used by other service providers such as DirecTv and Star Choice unless those services started to provide channels that Dish and Bev simply can't acquire. |
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MacLeech
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SoCal
1 edit | said by milnoc  :there's no reason for satellite pirates to crack encryptions used by other service providers such as DirecTv and Star Choice unless those services started to provide channels that Dish and Bev simply can't acquire. Like NFL Sunday ticket?
That's one huge reason crackers would go after DirecTV...
DirecTV has been hacked numerous times before... it's just that DirecTV goes after them:
»www.theregister.co.uk/2001/01/25···t_cards/ |
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL | reply to Nightshade
Do the chips work with SDV and on demand? |
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MacLeech
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1 edit | said by Joe12345678 :Do the chips work with SDV and on demand? As long as the equipment makers follow the whole DCAS spec and build the equipment with 2-way capability like it's supposed to be. |
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Anonymous_
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1 edit | unhackable? LOL
like the the AACS Blu-Ray/HD-DVD Key they were hacked quickly
only in about 3 months after the PS3 was out
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i1me2ao
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TEXAS | great
now 6 dollars a month for box
now 12 dollars a month for chip
taxes on chip 3 dollars
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DaveNJ
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join:1999-09-01
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·Patriot Media
| Stalemate has to end
The cablecard thing has to be resolved soon, otherwise i can see people getting very upset. The plan should be cablecard2 without ppv, von, should be allowed for all manufacturers, but make the sets, or dvrs, DCAS compatible, This way there future proof and we dont have to wait 2 more years to solve a simple problem. I just dont understand why they dont use sim cards like cellular phones. |
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milnoc
join:2001-03-05
H3B
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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Re: We'll see
ExpressVu also has NFL Sunday Ticket. ExpressVu also has something that's difficult to obtain from US satellite companies: US network feeds in different time zones.
Since the introduction of DirecTv's P4 cards, I've yet to hear from a reliable source that they've been cracked. So for now, DirecTv could be considered an "artificially secure" service provider i.e. no valid reason to crack their current security... YET! |
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL | reply to DaveNJ
Re: Stalemate has to end
cablecard2 without ppv, von will make it useless in a SVD system. |
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MacLeech
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4 edits | CableCARD 2.0 is already available.
Some equipment is 2-way capable, so using the cards in that allows for SDV, VOD, PPV, etc. See the Moto DCH 3416 or SA 8300C for examples.
Most equipment isn't 2-way capable (thanks to the cut down DCR spec the FCC released due to pressure from the CEA...). See the Tivo Series 3 or TivoHD for examples.
DCAS is a whole different animal and it will REQUIRE 2-way communication. See this:
»www.opencable.com/dcas/ |
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ
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Re: We'll see
said by hayabusa3303 :thats what they said about the DigiCipher for c band. Its still not cracked(that i know about). That came out in what 1997. how many people or hackers for that matter want a 8 foot dish in their yard/roof?
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waldoooo
join:2001-12-15
Blue Island, IL | If they can build it someone will hack it
eventually
thats a ton of money being spent to prevent PPV theft by people who won't purchase it anyway if they can't steal it.JMHO |
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hayabusa3303
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Re: We'll see
said by dvd536 :said by hayabusa3303 :thats what they said about the DigiCipher for c band. Its still not cracked(that i know about). That came out in what 1997. how many people or hackers for that matter want a 8 foot dish in their yard/roof? 10 deep dish here horizon to horizon best picture yet.
1st gen. signal too compared to 2nd and third gen signal with directv or cable.  |
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MacLeech
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SoCal | Any HD on that thing? |
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hayabusa3303
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2 edits | said by MacLeech :Any HD on that thing? So much i cant count anymore. Anything that is on Directv or dish or cable comes from c-band.
»www.motorola.com/content.jsp?glo···050-8100
here is a list its only about 3/4 but you get the idea. It fails to name other broadcast formats also which can be picked up for free yes free. Also there is alot of stuff on Ku band side not much but there is stuff there.
I also have a east to west view so i can pick up the atlantic sats which are feeds coming from Uk points east toward russia.
They use secam over there you can get a invertor to you can convert it to ntsc.
There are tons of Trvo stuff.
The Goes sats if you know what they are (weather) you can get update just like the weather channel does.
How about that for starters and people think c-band is dead. Its alive and good and there is talk of the jump to 1080p broadcast.
Did i say about price per month? i forgot i pay who i want to watch and no la carte crap. I would say about 80 percent is FREE. |
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C0deZer0
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1 edit | reply to Anonymous_
Re: unhackable? LOL
Hell, the PS2 had modchips before you could even buy a ps2. LOL! |
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hescominsoon
join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD
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Re: We'll see
said by milnoc :ExpressVu also has NFL Sunday Ticket. ExpressVu also has something that's difficult to obtain from US satellite companies: US network feeds in different time zones. Since the introduction of DirecTv's P4 cards, I've yet to hear from a reliable source that they've been cracked. So for now, DirecTv could be considered an "artificially secure" service provider i.e. no valid reason to crack their current security... YET! most times they don't even defeat the encryption but going after the cipher but rather the area where the keys are stored. In the case of BRD and HDDVD they did not crack the AES itself but they found the keys stored in memory and unlocked the encryption. Cracking modern encryption itself is not worth the time..finding the keys is much easier and takes much less effort. |
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