Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA
| Ugh...
I know it may not happen in my lifetime but I hope China gets what they deserve and actually allows people to express what they want without fear of death or whatnot.
But I can see why the ISP's have to bow to the pressure. Its either lose your money flow completely or bow into the pressure. Wait..that sounds familiar...our own politician's  |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Why won't they censor the sites....
....that host trojans, spyware, open mail servers, etc?
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Belinrahs
This ship is taking me far away
join:2007-09-07
Nashville, MI
clubs:   | Hmm
Um, well, I bet I could find a way through this blocking thing, just hang on, I'll book a flight to Beijing...NOT!
Crazy communists. |
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fuziwuzi
Not born yesterday
Premium
join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA
| reply to Jonbo298
Re: Ugh...
said by Jonbo298  :I know it may not happen in my lifetime but I hope China gets what they deserve and actually allows people to express what they want without fear of death or whatnot. But I can see why the ISP's have to bow to the pressure. Its either lose your money flow completely or bow into the pressure. Wait..that sounds familiar...our own politician's Yes, though not by "force of law", the political pressure in our own country to conform is still very palpable. Just ask the Dixie Chicks. |
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Ream0
@rr.com | Hah Hah!
Look who's talking about censorship!
Here at BBR posts disappear like Farts in the wind! |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| reply to fuziwuzi
Re: Ugh...
said by fuziwuzi :Yes, though not by "force of law", the political pressure in our own country to conform is still very palpable. Just ask the Dixie Chicks. Wow, post #2 and the USA already "sucks."
I might be out of it. Please tell me when the Dixie Chicks were killed, imprisoned, tortured or otherwise had their freedom deprived for expressing their views?
People choosing to boycott the Dixie Chicks is not the same as the government depriving you of your freedom for voicing opposition to government policy.
But this is still the USA, right? Are we no longer free to boycott businesses or acts that we don't like?
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Only SHATNER is Kirk. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to Ream0
Re: Hah Hah!
Only when they're the intellectual equivalent of said farts. |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
| Olympics
Will see how well their censoring works out during the games. My guess they will have a very hard time trying to control information with all those visitors in their country. We can only hope it causes so much problems it cause their government to fold.
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»www.seabee.navy.mil |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | What are they afraid of?
If the government is so confident in what they are doing is good for the people then it wouldn'tmatter what some disidents have to say. The people would ignore them. |
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Simba7
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
·Bresnan Online
| Mmmm.. Tunnels...
There's several ways around this. Encrypted VPN tunnels, Multiple secure Proxies, if you give someone that knows the network a few minutes, he'll hide himself well and not have to worry.
HK wasn't that bad in '01. I enjoyed visiting, but sure as hell wouldn't want to live there. |
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wispalord
join:2007-09-20
House Springs, MO | Cant they
Couldn't they just use a Web hosting company here, and the custermors use like hot spot shield, or a VPN provider here to get around it! |
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MrMoody
But the Grinch ... did Not.
join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC
·Embarq
 ·Skype
·magicjack.com
| WTF?
quote:
The government recently launched a program whereby two animated characters (Jingjing and Chacha, above) remind users they're being watched.
But why are they surfing on manhole covers?
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"It is a future in which globalization really does work ... and everybody winds up getting to be part of the third world." - William Gibson |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to pnh102
Re: Ugh...
quote:
People choosing to boycott the Dixie Chicks is not the same as the government depriving you of your freedom for voicing opposition to government policy.
If it were people chosing the boycott the Dixie Chicks it wouldn't be a problem. But in their case, Clear Channel "silenced" them, which demonstrated the power Clear Channel really has on our purported "free speech". So I do see it as a very apropos analogy. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| said by djrobx :If it were people chosing the boycott the Dixie Chicks it wouldn't be a problem. But in their case, Clear Channel "silenced" them, which demonstrated the power Clear Channel really has on our purported "free speech". So I do see it as a very apropos analogy. So what? Clear Channel is a private company owned by members of the public that can do whatever it wants to within the confines of the law. We wouldn't be much of a free country if the government told radio stations that they had to play certain musical acts.
And even with that, there was nothing stopping people from buying the Dixie Chicks' CDs, downloading their music online, or going to their concerts.
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Only SHATNER is Kirk. |
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Vertickle
join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL
·Knology
| reply to MrMoody
Re: WTF?
said by MrMoody : quote:
The government recently launched a program whereby two animated characters (Jingjing and Chacha, above) remind users they're being watched.
But why are they surfing on manhole covers? LOL! Good catch! |
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Thug21
Just Chillin'
Premium
join:2005-08-21 | reply to MrMoody
Underneath those covers is where they keep the bodies of those who don't obey.  |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | reply to pnh102
Re: Ugh...
I wouldn't waste your time defending the U.S. If Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iranian President) can come to this country and deny WWII, can anyone honestly argue that we don't have free speech? |
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jjoshua
Premium
join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
1 edit | Fine American companies make this all possible
The finest in American technology and know-how built the Great Firewall of China.
While our government is pushing for freedom and free trade around the world, American companies are making money restricting freedom around the world.
Here's another example:
»www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/busin···f=slogin |
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Nuts
join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH | reply to Thug21
Re: WTF?
They used the manhole covers to whack 'em in the head |
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