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Comments on news posted 2007-09-27 11:01:12: A 23-year-old hacker named Robert Moore hacked into 15 telecommunications companies and hundreds of businesses worldwide in order to net free VoIP minutes, which he and a partner then sold at highly discounted rates for a million in profit. ..

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Transmaster
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join:2001-06-20
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What is with these.....

Penis heads, do they honestly think they are not going to get caught. Well now he is going to be a fresh morsel for the butt pirates in prison.
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jc100

join:2002-04-10
Well no one said criminals were smart. The mastermind had someone do his dirty work, and paid him like crap. Maybe he was, but surely not this guy.

Jerkface

join:2005-06-05
Washington, NJ
Wow.

He's probably going to end up like most of the hackers that goto jail for this kind of stuff-- Get a job in silicon valley...


Plasticman
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reply to Transmaster
Re: What is with these.....

said by Transmaster See Profile :

Penis heads, do they honestly think they are not going to get caught. Well now he is going to be a fresh morsel for the butt pirates in prison.
Yup he has that baby face look..... I am sure somebody will play doctor with him and say open wide, saw ahhh...

Plasticman
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Goober
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Caveman

More importantly, he put down cavemen again.


tomkb
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hmm

what's stupid is that he is giving away his secrets instead of using his knowledge to negotiate no jail time, or to teach the good guys how to do things.

Also, you gotta get your $ offshore as soon as possible. If you gotta go to jail, you might as well have the money too.


accountability

@xo.net

Nice, lets give this jerk publicity too...

Could we take his picture down. Makes him look like he's a pompous saint.

Nothing like saying, "Hey, be a criminal and become famous!"
Meanwhile, the dope's master is off and hiding.

What get's me is the arrogance. And only two years? If he were remorseful or even, "I was coerced to do this for Pena. I was, you, addicted to gambling and had, well, a lot of debt..." Instead only two years? Please, I rob a bank of $1m and the fed put me away for atleast 10 (with maybe 5 for good PMITA behavior).

Too lenient. Too stupid.


cypherstream
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The voip companies should be held partially responsible

Seriously, who leaves default passwords on all of their routers and such?

So this guy takes the fall for it, but the admins of these companies should be canned.


sporkme
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reply to Jerkface
Re: Wow.

said by Jerkface See Profile :

He's probably going to end up like most of the hackers that goto jail for this kind of stuff-- Get a job in silicon valley...
Like who? Most are usually denied access to computers when released. How many "hackers" were even arrested last year?


sporkme
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reply to cypherstream
Re: The voip companies should be held partially responsible

said by cypherstream See Profile :

So this guy takes the fall for it, but the admins of these companies should be canned.
Twice even. Regardless of what the passwords were, there's absolutely no reason that they should be allowing random IP addresses on the internets to talk to their administrative interfaces.

amungus
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reply to cypherstream
Yeah, and this part of the story is just finger pointing...

"Products should be sold so the default password has to be changed first time they use it," said Paller. "It's all on the vendors. It's not about the user being careless. It's a silly thing for them to have to know to do."

Rhodes, however, says until vendors make it necessary to change the default password before a system or product will work, IT departments need to be given the time and resources to get it done."
Sure, good idea, but it is most certainly not ALL on the vendors. It IS about the "user" (um, Administrator?) being careless. That's one of the most obvious things to do, changing the password. It is by no means "silly" for someone to "know to do." It is one of the very first things I learned about how to set up a router... if you set it up from scratch, or are recovering one, you change the freaking password(s).

Give IT time and ...RESOURCES???... to change a password?

Well I hope it was fun for this guy, but what about the "mastermind" guy? No fun times in the slammer for him??? Just fast cars, boats, and whatever else? That makes no sense.


grobinette
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Routers

The router manufacturers could easily fix this. Force a user name and password change when logging in to a router for the first time.
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tcharp
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reply to cypherstream
Re: The voip companies should be held partially responsible

I don't know about responsible, but certainly stupid at least. Who is in charge of security at these joints?

-TC
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ftthz
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join:2005-10-17
rofl

someone doesn't do security checks...

russotto

join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
*sigh*

Even in crime, it's the business guys who get all the money and the tech guys who get the shaft.

nutcr0cker

join:2003-04-02
Chandler, AZ

reply to Jerkface
Re: Wow.

WTH makes him even an hacker all he did was to exploit the laziness of the installers. He is not even a script kiddie just a plain dumb crook. Hacking involves some circumventing knowledge but his feat lacked any stereotypical hackers. The only thing this guy is fit for is to sell used car. The height of stupidity is that he only made 20,000


PeteC2
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reply to grobinette
Re: Routers

said by grobinette See Profile :

The router manufacturers could easily fix this. Force a user name and password change when logging in to a router for the first time.
Couldn't agree more. Sure, end users ought to take even a tiny bit of effort and thought to protect themselves, but it is no different than with anything else, folks just do not believe that "they" will be hit...

It would be very easy, and makes sense for the vendor to simply supply a limited usage password that expires and then must be changed.
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Amadeus
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reply to Jerkface
Re: Wow.

yep you are so right

I bet that's what going to happen too...
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dogo88

join:2001-09-24
Old Bridge, NJ
priceless

Forest Gump was right. "Stupid is as stupid does"


jgkolt
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money

so how did they make money off of it? What was the name of their company etc.
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