notwrth10
join:2007-03-03
1001EB
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I buy that last line....
But the FCC says that even if it eventually goes forward, it’s going to be based on voluntary involvement by consumers and so the telemarketer list fear is unfounded.
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swintec
Premium
join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME |  Telemarketers...
These guys dont need a directory to get our numbers, whats going to stop them from simply dialing random numbers?
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robs440
Premium
join:2003-06-26
Orlando, FL
 ·Bright House
| got my number?
so many folks were changing numbers and cancelling accounts when i worked for the big blue cell co., that lots of times a persons number was only good for 6 months or less and it was given out to someone else.
besides, they dial random. hell i'm getting junk calls now and spam in my text inbox. they dont need a directory. |
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BOGBS
Premium
join:2004-05-11
Saco, ME
·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | What if you have a standard telco exchange?
I've had several friends and coworkers who have gotten a cell phone number in a standard phone exchange. These would be exchanges that have been in use by ILEC/RBOC/etc for many years. I've had several reports they've had credit card companies, satellite dish, and other salespeople/telemarketers calling these numbers. Although these numbers are probably recycled land line blocks, who knows...
I'm not sure if this is an occurrence in other areas around the country, but people that have been given regular land line exchanges might find telemarketers and other unwanted callers making calls to their number.
This may be partially the fault of cell phone companies. I thought it was odd that my wife's new cell phone number a couple years back got an exchange that has been in my area for more than 15 years.
I've been lucky, personally. I've had a standard cell phone exchange, and very minimal problems with text spam, or telemarketing calls. Actually, I don't think I've gotten any telemarketing calls (crosses fingers) |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| said by BOGBS  :This may be partially the fault of cell phone companies. I thought it was odd that my wife's new cell phone number a couple years back got an exchange that has been in my area for more than 15 years. If you want to blame anyone, blame the people who wanted number porting.
I am a firm believer that cell phones and pagers should have their own exchanges. Even pay phones used to their last 4 numbers start with a 9 to make it easier to identify. |
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BOGBS
Premium
join:2004-05-11
Saco, ME
·RoadRunner Cable
4 edits | said by moonpuppy :said by BOGBS :This may be partially the fault of cell phone companies. I thought it was odd that my wife's new cell phone number a couple years back got an exchange that has been in my area for more than 15 years. If you want to blame anyone, blame the people who wanted number porting. I am a firm believer that cell phones and pagers should have their own exchanges. Even pay phones used to their last 4 numbers start with a 9 to make it easier to identify. That's a great point actually. Number porting is a half decent idea, by my thoughts, but there's definitely many downsides to it... And I'm sure if I asked for another exchange, I probably could have gotten it, if a number was available.
I'm just glad that even though she has this local exchange, we've not had any issues with telemarketing, for the most part. She also only uses it about 10-20 minutes a month, anyway.
I also completely agree that cellphones should have their own exchange as well. Some may want to port their home phone number to a cell, but I'm not one of those people. |
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JasonWISP
join:2004-06-29
| reply to BOGBS
Great point. Actually, the exchanged is based off of "NPA-NXX-X" (including the last X I have there). So, the cell phone company may be using 630-226-3XXX while the 630-226 block is assigned to the larger company. It's not subleased, it's just the way they can be assigned. With smaller areas that have one "exchange", they are used to a prefix per town. So, it is handy to use the same exchange with the 7th number (812-847-X) being the cellular company. |
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Irish Shark
Play Like A Champion Today
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-29
Las Vegas, NV | Yea, right
Then why do I get those calls on my cell? |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| said by Irish Shark :Then why do I get those calls on my cell? Easy they have computer dialer's that rapidly dial numbers like this XXX.0001, 0002, 0003........9999 when the computer dialer gets a good connection, depending on how it is set up, if a fax machine is detected a fax will be dumped in, answering machine a message will be dumped, if it is a live line it is routed to an operator in a telephone bank, any active number then goes into an active number "D" base. Somewhere in this the do not call data base comes into play, har-de-har-har. In other words if you don't know who is calling don't pick up the telephone.
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Irish Shark
Play Like A Champion Today
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-29
Las Vegas, NV | If the name/number is blocked, I don't answer any phone. Or screwball prefixes as well.
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to swintec
Re: Telemarketers...
Legality for one thing.
»www.ftc.gov/opa/2005/04/dnc.shtm"Telemarketing to cell phone numbers has always been illegal in most cases and will continue to be so." |
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whocares
Premium
join:2003-07-26
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Re: Yea, right
IF thats true,that solictors don't have my cell phone 3, (NO ONE KNOWS IT9 other then cingular/AT&T & me) then why is it i get 1-2 UN ASKED for voice mails a day from soilitors,when i forward my calls from home to my cell,?
i don't get any on my home phone.
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to BOGBS
Re: What if you have a standard telco exchange?
The problem is people wanted to keep their old cell phone numbers when they changed providers. Verizon actually wanted this because they thought they could get more people. They didn't realize that churn happens both ways. 
I still think landline porting is a bad idea when people move. However, this was a problem relating to the phone companies and the relatively small long distance lengths. |
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cellguy123
@algx.net
| Own prefix
North America must be one of the only places to have the cell owner pay for the calls.
Usualy calls made to a 'mobile' area code, have a higher long distance rate attached to them.
Looking at other country area codes, you see (for example) Country1 - 123
Country1 - 444 (mobile)
Country2 - 555
Country2 - 556 (Special Services) |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | >_>
better pay to call me if they do call and waste my minutes |
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81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA | reply to openbox9
Re: Telemarketers...
an exception to the rule is if the phone is owned by corporation. Then they call you as it's considered business phone
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fireflier
Coffee. . .Need Coffee
Premium
join:2001-05-25
Limbo
 ·Skype
| reply to openbox9
You don't really think that's going to stop them do you?
I've got a list of caller IDs as long as my arm who have called me illegally based on those FTC guidelines and they keep right on calling (and yes my number is registered with the FTC, and I submit complaints to them when I get such calls).
I gave up expecting the FTC's guidelines to do any good and put my own system together to intercept these crap calls.
Check out whois.us and read some of the most common telemarketing calls. It's really discouraging to see how little the FTC regulations are doing in this area. Cell phone, home phone, VOIP, previous customer or not, the worst of these telemarketers simply don't care because their odds of getting caught and busted are slim if they spoof their ID and stay under the FTC radar by violating less than the next guy.
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| said by fireflier :You don't really think that's going to stop them do you? Yes I do. I can't speak to your misfortune, but neither I, my wife, nor any of my extended family have received any telemarketing calls on their mobile phones beyond a couple of cases. Those instances were corrected by stating the number was a mobile phone, to please not call again, and that the violation was being reported to the appropriate authorities. We have yet to receive any callbacks. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to whocares
Re: Yea, right
said by whocares :when i forward my calls from home to my cell,? i don't get any on my home phone. Maybe because you have your home phone forwarded to your mobile phone? |
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Dezbend
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-20
| reply to openbox9
Re: Telemarketers...
I thought that although the law was still on the books the FCC admitted it became unenforceable when they mandated wireless number portability. I put my number on the national do not call list just to be sure, but I still get the occasional call. I report the calls on the do not call website, but who knows what happens with that.
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