  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | Interesting development This is clearly not against the TOS of BT's internet service, and that is a huge win for FON. Given the BT is essentially the LEC for all of England, this gives a huge (potential) reach to FON if people start using the service. This could get interesting if it gains any traction.
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 | | | Re: Interesting development wifi4milez:
I'd like to point out that British Telecom is the ILEC for the whole* of the UK, not just its largest constituent.
*excluding Kingston-Upon-Hull, one city in the largest constituent of the UK, England. | |
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|  menumorutBE an American.
join:2005-07-04
Queens Village, NY | Mr.Varshavsky is in the business of building and the selling companies for a profit, not running them (search his history).Good for him!!!
Fon is a social(istic) company that cannot make money with it´s present business model.
Fon invites broadband users to violate their ISP´s TOS (the ones that have no agreements with Fon), more specifically the part that prohibits to resell the connection or allow third party access without the ISP written consent.
Just like communism, perfect on theory, practically, a different story!
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| | | | Re: Interesting development said by menumorut:Fon is a social(istic) company that cannot make money with it´s present business model. Fon invites broadband users to violate their ISP´s TOS (the ones that have no agreements with Fon), more specifically the part that prohibits to resell the connection or allow third party access without the ISP written consent. it actually works not bad if you have a hotspot near a coffee shop, or a restaurant or something similar. you're not going to get rich, but you save a bit on your monthly bills | |
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 Jim GurdPremium
join:2000-07-08
Plymouth, MI | Making money So how does Bill make any money if he has a bunch of Linus's using his network? | |
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|  LaZ3RPremium
join:2003-01-17 | Re: Making money My question exactly. You'll end up having a bunch of "linus's" leeching off of you for free. I don't understand this...
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| | LaZ3RPremium
join:2003-01-17 | Re: Making money "Every person in the UK who agrees to share a small portion of their home broadband connection will be able to share the connection of any other member. "
Why... Why would I want to share my connection with someone else who already has their own connection. I'm simply not understanding the huge benefit of sharing your connection with everyone around you for free.
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| Re: Making money The point is you can share when you are away from home. Near where I live, there is an apartment building with a busy Starbucks in the basement. That means if you are a Linus you get free Wifi there or you can pay less to use it than Starbucks' T-Mobile wireless. Granted, as a Bill, you don't make money on them, but I'm sure there are other people that would pay for the usage. It really only works in dense area's. No one would use it if you are on your own 5 acres of land. | |
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|  knightmbEverybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN | said by Jim Gurd:So how does Bill make any money if he has a bunch of Linus's using his network? Aliens, defined as those not part of the FON community. If they want access, they pay a fee for 24 hours access. The "Bill" or person who has the wi-fi hot-spot gets about half of what is made. I know because I run the "Bill" FON hot-spot and had a few people a month use it. I don't really care about the money, I would give it away for free. But I want to avoid the 24/7 leechers. This runs on my Comcast account, but I use my m0n0wall box to traffic shape their bandwidth to around 3.0 MB Down / 256 Kb Up. They also sit on the lowest priority for bandwidth so that high usage won't affect the bandwidth used by the company.
One thing I have to give them credit for, their custom firmware for the linksys hack the power level up as high as it can go because these things have some range that I've never seen before in off the shelf linksys routers. | |
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I think I make 10 or 12 bucks a month off mine, and 99% of the usage is while I'm at work and not using it anyway | |
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| | here is a Idea... all of the companys partnered with fon (such as BT anmd Timewarner) should have a free router sent to their customers that want to use it and give a small discount per month for having a fon router (such as 5$ off a month) . This will spread the fon community everywhere faster because everyone will want a discounted internet rate. Also it will spread access to wifi worldwide. | |
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| | | Re: here is a Idea... I believe BT is adding support for FON into their "home hub" (the router you'll get sent free for signing up to BT broadband) anyway. | |
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