techwench
I Work For Food
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join:2003-06-26
Sherman, TX | isohunt...
Wow...torrent sites don't even recognize Oklahoma as a state...I can get around and download just fine @ isohunt...  |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA | OHHH MY!!!
Please dont block my pRon  |
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LiberalKing
Intocable
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join:2005-09-12
Bronx, NY | FileSwapping will forever be with us.
65 millions p2p(ers) and growing. |
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Madcap
Reformed Forum Troll
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join:2004-06-26
Kenosha, WI
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| Socks Proxy
Can help you download from trackers that are blocking the US. There are legal and free http and socks proxies out there, at times it may hinder you (slow proxy) but it'll get you past the US closeout being done by these companies.
It's clear they don't care about legal torrent uses (*nix distros, World of Warcraft's patching system, etc.) they're just slamming it down and pressuring away the trackers without regard or concern of users. |
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merrix
Software Architect
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join:2002-09-25
Los Angeles, CA
| Can't stop wont stop
this form of filesharing might be halted, but with the new popularity of streaming everything, the only thing left to be shared is software. Surely there will be a new way to do this shortly after torrents are stopped.
Go DIVX
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moschops
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join:2003-12-20
Oakland, CA | Hey network, leave my peers alone
That's going to really upset all the legitimate users of p2p - like Vuze, open source distribution, Joost etc. |
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asdfasd
@mountaincable.net | Just another way to halt the evolution of the inet.
Piracy will always be around. ISP's like piracy since it gets them subscribers.. What they don't like is upgrading.. Having Bit caps and throttling various software programs helps them in reaching this goal. |
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MrMoody
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Smithfield, NC
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Re: isohunt...
The isohunt site is not blocked, it's their trackers including torrentbox.
Demonoid recently blocked Canadian users from their site though.
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
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Re: Hey network, leave my peers alone
said by moschops  :That's going to really upset all the legitimate users of p2p - like Vuze, open source distribution, Joost etc. No, it only affects the individual torrent trackers who choose to block, and theres tons of em (that dont.)
I wonder how much mpaa/riaa is paying those people to do this.
I highly doubt they are doing this out of the kindness of thier hearts.
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‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | reply to moschops
i see a come back of usenet and irc if the keeps up |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL | reply to hopeflicker
Re: OHHH MY!!!
"Even the local porn industry is working on legal action to prevent p2p piracy."
Are they paying in trade?
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bctrainers
join:2004-08-03
Olathe, KS
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Re: Hey network, leave my peers alone
said by elios :i see a come back of usenet and irc if the keeps up Sadly enough, I can see the same happening also. Mainly towards usenet, IRC possibly, but IRC is rather old on its life span...  |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| reply to Madcap
Re: Socks Proxy
said by Madcap :It's clear they don't care about legal torrent uses (*nix distros, World of Warcraft's patching system, etc.) Don't need P2P for business use. Businesses can flip their bill themselves.. it's why they collect a monthly fee from their users after all. Spend it where they should.. on infrustructure. Why doesn't Microsoft just sent out service packs on P2P then?
If people would stop abusing the part of torrent which ISN'T LEGAL, then maybe there would be no need to crack down on it. So far, this is just an excuse, and a bad one at that. You have a right to be on the street at night too - it's legal. HOWEVER, in some areas, they will crack down on people, ALL PEOPLE, because of the prostitution and drug activity that runs amok. This is no different. Until it's cleaned up and people knock it off, then they will continue to crack down.
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| reply to elios
Re: Hey network, leave my peers alone
It doesn't matter where it goes.. if crimes are being committed, they will be sought after and stopped. The only way to stop legal content owners from going after people is to KNOCK IT OFF.
People act as if as long as there is a delivery vehicle that it's simple o.k. to use it for what ever - IT'S NOT!
The people that are getting popped for illegal fire sharing know they are doing something wrong. It's in the news, it's all over the same internet they are doing it, and if they visit this site, they know it's not right. Yet, people are going to continue to be smug about it.
That girl in Minnesota that's GOING to pay the $220K WILL pay it.. it WON'T be discharged and on $34K a year, it looks like she'll be in debt to them the rest of her life - or she can move to Canada.
Continue to push the envelope and there will be more of these law suits. Take it elsewhere and it will follow. Use the software and technology for the right reasons and not illegal ones and there won't be a crack down.
Sure, there are people that are using it for legal purposes - but you'd be a fool to think there isn't a LARGE, VERY LARGE portion of people that think sitting behind their computer won't get caught.
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"Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and I’m told it’s a woman’s prerogative..." |
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peerimpact
join:2005-11-07
Londonderry, VT
| Distributed Bittorent clients get around the need for sites
Tribber is a Social Open source distributed bittorent cleint that has a built in tracker and recommendations eso it no longer needs sites to work out what is available ,it indexes what is on other users computers and they are building aloritms and hashing techniques to build trust into the system .Any Tribler style network will be very hard for the RIAA and MPAA to shut down .
Tribler is from the University of Delft in the Netherlands and some researchers from Harvard are also working on it so its not some fly by night project.
»https://www.tribler.org/
»tv.seas.harvard.edu/ |
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espaeth
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Re: Hey network, leave my peers alone
said by moschops :That's going to really upset all the legitimate users of p2p - like Vuze, open source distribution, Joost etc. They'll get over it.
Open source has some of the widest support when it comes to distribution resources. You want to publish your opensource software? Use Sourceforge or any of the folks on this list: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison···cilities
You want to talk about Linux distribution? It doesn't look like they're hurting for mirrors:
»www.centos.org/modules/tinyconte···hp?id=13
»https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors?action=s···=Archive
»mirrors.fedoraproject.org/public···edora/7/
If you have the equipment to produce your own HD content, then surely you have the $3-7/mo to buy hosting to distribute it from any of the major hosting companies. (GoDaddy, Site5, Dreamhost, etc)
The legitimate uses for P2P that people constantly refer to already have a vast array of alternate delivery mechanisms. It's only when you start to factor in illegal uses where your options start to become constrained.
-Eric |
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jester121
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to bctrainers
That sounds funny if you know how old Usenet is... |
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ncbill
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join:2007-01-23
Winston Salem, NC | reply to fiberguy
She's never going to pay that judgment.
Her wages are too low to be garnished.
RIAA paid a lot for a moral victory. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| This judgment is non-dischargable.
My own attorney, who happens to be in the same state as this case and happens to know it very well, and also knows the judge in this case, was talking to me about this one yesterday. He stated that this is an order that will be paid, one way or another.
Now that they have the judgment, will they get it all? They CAN! It can take them many years to get it, OR, since they have her now, they can work on something, between themselves, that is more reasonable. But, the fact remains, if they wanted to go after her - they will get it, slowly but surely.
And, if they wanted to garnish her check, they are welcome to 25% of it. At $36,000 per year, there is plenty of money in there for her to give up. It may take her 25 years, but if they really want it, they can have it. If she comes into any inheritance, lottery winnings, real estate, stocks, pay raises.. the RIAA owns her at this point.
She should just make sure she has no government garnishments in the future because ON TOP of they 25% that she will lose, the government can come after an additional 25% of her pay as well.
What you don't understand, probably, is that bad things happen to people like this. It's far more than a moral victory. It should be sending a loud message that file sharing is against the law and they want it stopped. For sharing that music, her life is ruined. They are SURELY going to make an example out of her.
What I HOPE *doesn't* happen, in this case, is that people come to her aid and donate and pay the fines and attorney costs. THAT will also surely send a message to the **AA that they'll get their money one way or another as well.
Either way, the **AA wins.
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | no she wont pay it others will help her trust me |
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