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Comments on news posted 2007-10-08 13:30:05: Several Meraki customers and industry insiders have e-mailed us to note that last-mile wireless hardware vendor Meraki isn't exactly making friends with some recent business changes. ..



DaSneaky1D
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How can they fit pants?

'Cause this move takes some large ones!

In related news: Used Car Salesmen, ambulance chasing lawyers and OJ all agree...."that's dirty!"
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djm61
Change? HAH

join:2001-06-20
Simi Valley, CA

Boycott!

Time to make them the last "Last Mile" wireless company.
Don't buy their products!
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MadDog3057
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Well then...

I guess FON isn't looking so bad now eh?

LLigetfa

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Unfair pricing?

Ever hear about introductory pricing on a beta product? Who ever heard of paying full market price for a beta product in its infancy?

Get over it.


Devanchya
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But how else are they to stay open?

Always look at the business model.

they didn't really have one.

With out this, 2 years max, they would have been bankrupt and you would have all been screaming about how you spent money on a brick.
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bmn
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Such a shame...

I was actually going to use their hardware in a project that was going to offer a hotel property-wide WIFI for their guests since they had the solar power kit (which would make deployment much easier without having to run power and cables).

Nice way for a company to shoot itself in the foot...
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S_engineer
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reply to DaSneaky1D

Re: How can they fit pants?

I would have loved to see the business model for this one. On the other hand, they obviously won't be around long enough for a second mention on BBR, hopefully!
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ropeguru
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Mechanicsville, VA
reply to LLigetfa

Re: Unfair pricing?

said by LLigetfa:

Ever hear about introductory pricing on a beta product? Who ever heard of paying full market price for a beta product in its infancy?

Get over it.
I think most would "get over it" if it was announced up front that it was a beta system and that sometime in the future the "real" prices would be advertised ahead of time. From what I am reading, it sounds like they just all of a sudden cut people off and raised rates without notice.

If I am wrong, please point me to where they previously told their customers ahead of time that this was an introductory offer or beta test and also where the future rates were advertised ahead of time.
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roadyoadyoady

@209.130.203.x

I was considering this...

but it doesn't make sense to pay overhead on equipment that I already own.

Sorry Meraki...no can do.

KSC5190

join:2002-03-14
Chicago, IL
reply to Devanchya

Re: But how else are they to stay open?

Airlink, linksys, d-link, etc. sell routers for $20-$50 each. Personally, I never paid over $30 for a router until I purchased a few meraki units. I justified the additional cost because they were mesh networking units, not just routers. They pulled a bait-and-switch, plain and simple. Meraki customers were misled, the entire time we've been building networks for meraki, not for ourselves. The mandatory ad bar and tripled price tag really destroy any credibility they had.


serge666

join:2004-06-07
Little Falls, NJ

EVIL

forcing Ads on paying customers is EViL!!! >:/


superht1

join:2001-02-22
Kennesaw, GA
said by serge666:

Placing ads on paying customers is BS!
fixed


korym
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Richmond, VA

They really may have...

...killed the model. For those interested, here's the continuing thread on Meraki's own forum:

»forums.meraki.com/viewtopic.php?t=1841

There's an informal conference call this evening for those of us who have deployed their radios:

»forums.meraki.com/viewtopic.php?t=1916

I'm already looking at alternatives considering I have a city-wide project including two community neighborhood networks as well as a private developer network on the line.

Hope they wake up before they lose a too large of a number of their customers.

Regards,
Kory
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korym
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reply to ropeguru

Re: Unfair pricing?

said by ropeguru:

If I am wrong, please point me to where they previously told their customers ahead of time that this was an introductory offer or beta test and also where the future rates were advertised ahead of time.
You're not wrong, ropeguru. This was never mentioned. LLigetfa is out of line with his comment. Sure hate to see someone yank his network out from under his feet.
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katylied

join:2003-10-15
Hot Springs National Park, AR

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People are shocked but . . .

Didn't Meraki begin with open source software on commodity hardware ?
Fon can't continue at current ROI levels either I'd guess.
Meraki has put alot of time and effort on top of these things towards making attractive and easy to use products and they want to make a profit.
Anyone who puts in a little time and effort can compete with these guys.
If few choose to compete, there may be a reason.
Does anyone really give warnings of price increases ?


FFH5
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The "free lunch" people got sucked in once again

Is this surprising?
All those poor saps who actually believe that they can get something for nothing are once again shocked that this isn't how the real world works.
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KSC5190

join:2002-03-14
Chicago, IL
Oddly enough, I recall paying for my Meraki units... Suddenly being told that we have to pay 3x as much as before to expand AND that Meraki will retain control of the networks we build is a bit hard to swallow.

bmn
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You have to realize, FFH5 See Profile isn't interested in facts...


korym
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Richmond, VA

Meraki responds...

»forums.meraki.com/viewtopic.php?p=6945#6945

It's a good start, IMHO.

Regards,
Kory

kcblack
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join:2000-09-11
Chicago, IL
reply to KSC5190

Re: But how else are they to stay open?

if you flash some of the popular routers with the sveasoft firmware you can get the mesh feature as well.

Kevin

lschweiss
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Bridgeton, MO

Buy the standard and role your own software

I've been buying Meraki's since they went beta. However, I don't run their software. I install OpenWRT on them w/ OLSRd and I control the mesh network.

Frankly, I thought Meraki grabing 20% for billing was too much to ask. Now they want an additional $100 per unit and still charge 20% to do billing.

It's a nice pre-packaged system but, not worth what they want to charge. Let's face it they don't provide any of the bandwidth or other overheads associated with deploying them.

Makes me consider commercializing the work I have done with some nice front ends and sell the software package.


korym
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Richmond, VA
Looks like a good review here of what you've done, if I'm reading correctly:

»www.ccirrus.per.sg/rfc13109/2005···th-olsr/

qworster

join:2001-11-25
Bryn Mawr, PA
reply to kcblack

You can use mDD-WRT firmware on the Meraki...

Buy the basic units and then flash DD-WRT on them. Problem solved.