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Comments on news posted 2007-10-09 14:00:08: A few weeks ago we asked you to throw your questions our direction, and we'd try to get the most popular questions answered by ISP representatives. ..

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pokesph
It Is Almost Fast
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Sacramento, CA
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comcast

nothing new here.. nothing to see, so move along..


Ream0

@rr.com


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If you got Comcast

...You deserve to be abused!

Before Time warner took over my area Comcast charged me $60.95/month for 4M/386k with an obsurd cap on the newsserver.

Now,With Time warner I get 6M/512k and UNLIMITED NEWSSERVER for $44.95 a month!

Comcast loves to SCREW over it's customers!


Sebastian
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join:2000-12-22
New Haven, CT

reply to pokesph
Re: comcast

so for the majority of us we won't see any 16mbps+ speed anytime soon, being there is no competition except slow-dsl which no one wants.

i guess if you want speed you'd have to move to a city where multiple companies are duken' it out.. as for the rest of us, i guess we'd have to settle for whatever comcast decides to give to us as they don't have an obligation to increase our speed if they know they're the only ISP in town.

unfair? maybe, we'll suck it up - as always.


alex goldman

@internet.com


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Cabal See Profile

bandwidth caps?

When you add all this up, Comcast delivers over 418 terabytes of entertainment communication and information into an average household every month

-- a particularly impressive achievement if each household has a bandwidth cap of 100 GB per month.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK
·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T DSL Service
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·AT&T Southwest

To sum it up:

We could give you more speed, and at better rates.

... but unless competition forces us too, kicking and screaming, I might add, it'll be a cold day in hell before we do.

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Seems like about an accurate summation, don't ya think?

Jonbo298

join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA

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reply to Sebastian
Re: comcast

Living in the country or a lesser sized town/city, you don't get everything us city slickers get


woody7
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Torrance, CA
·EarthLink
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pffftttt....

I live in Torrance,CA. The city is divided between Verizon and ATT. The cable is RR(their tier here is 5mb). I won't/can't get the latest greatest cause the way it is set up, there is no (real) competition between any of them. I am less than 1000 feet from a CO, but it isn't the one offering DSL. The one I get my DSL(1500/300) from is 10,000 feet away, go figure.Peace
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Cabal
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join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA

reply to Sebastian
Re: comcast

You hardly need to dodge bullets to reap the rewards of broadband competition. Middlesex County, MA has 2000 square miles of it inside the 495 belt and outside of Boston. Everyone I know enjoys Blast service, and my only neighbors are trees.
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comcastinvestor

@comcast.net

Hey, they'd better not invest a dime in new tiers...

unless there is a competitive need. Yes, they need to strive to be the best in every market, but that doesn't mean offering 16/2 everywhere. And last i checked, FIOS wasn't being offered in the vast majority of comcast markets.

Yes, I think they should continue to invest and drive toward DOCSIS 3.0. That's the future and the key for cost efficient bandwidth increases. But as a stockholder I'd want some answers if they start offering 16/2 in AT&T markets for example, where their maximum offering is 6Mbps. Nuff said.


SlickEnW
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Seattle, WA
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·Comcast

Compare to YouTube? How Cute.

For some reason i'm put off by his comparison of Comcast's bandwidth delivery to that of YouTube. YouTube is huge, but it is not an ISP, whereas an ISP will deliver content of all types, including to people who arn't into "viral" and may be into "on-line streaming" or "hardcore online family tree editors" , there is no need for comcast to strut its e-penis when talking about bandwidth, especially when they will shut anyone down for using the connection as it was intended.

Give me a break.


Tsume

join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
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Umm

Why does someone that high up in a company have so much spare time as to figure out measurements of each piece of their infrastructure and then see how many times it can circle the globe??
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Rob
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said by Tsume See Profile :

Why does someone that high up in a company have so much spare time as to figure out measurements of each piece of their infrastructure and then see how many times it can circle the globe??
Because those numbers show how impressive their network is.


dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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Hercules, CA
·Comcast

UPSTREAM!!

8mbps downstream is ok... for now.
Give me some freakin UPSTREAM!
I have 9-10GB system images that I really would like to store offsite.
Care to do some cyphering for me?

10GB at 724kbps(nominal) = ???

All the while, with my upstream maxed out... using the connection for surfing(?) is a joke!

I don't upload to BT or any other P2P - let alone Sandvine's bullshit.

I want to be able to backup my *COMPUTER* C drive.
I have two(2) active computers here. All the above - twice!

[/RANT]
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Nightfall
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reply to KrK
Re: To sum it up:

This actually sums it up pretty well too...

"Verizon is very hush hush as to where they plan to offer service next, and Comcast is no different. The company wouldn't tell us what determines where they deploy the 16Mbps tier, but they repeatedly insisted that the speeds customers currently get are plenty for the vast majority of users."

A vast majority of users ARE NOT the users here at BBR. The users at BBR want the fastest line, no caps, very low latency, and 100% uptime at the cheapest price possible.

A majority of customers will never purchase Blast in the first place because they will never see the speed differences. Unless they are fooled into believing that that 12000/2000 connection is 2x as fast as the 6000/384 connection at pulling up websites or their email.


EverAndAnon

@verizon.net

reply to Sebastian
Re: comcast

Typical evening speeds when I last had both Comcast HSI (6000/384 tier) and Verizon DSL (3000/768):

Comcast: 3000 down (if I was lucky), 350 up
Verizon: 2880 down (all the time), 715 up

Cost? $58 for Comcast, $32 for Verizon (all fees included for both)

"...which no one wants"? Hardly. "slow DSL"? Slower... barely, and way faster on the upstream. Plus, latency with Verizon was half that of Comcast's.

One should not generalize. DSL may suck in New Haven, but it doesn't in my area.


sansri88
Go digtal you analog laggards
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New York, NY
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Oh wow...

That was my question!!!


espaeth
Digital Plumber
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Minneapolis, MN
reply to alex goldman
Re: bandwidth caps?

That number includes CDV and video distribution, not just high speed Internet use.


gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

reply to Tsume
Re: Umm

said by Tsume See Profile :

Why does someone that high up in a company have so much spare time as to figure out measurements of each piece of their infrastructure and then see how many times it can circle the globe??
They have a whole marketing dept to do that for em
A whole page of marketing bs with one sentence for the answer.
Only verizon areas will be able to live in the new digital millenium, the rest of us can stay in the dark ages.
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Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

fair comparisons..

Both fail to deliver a Verizon quality of service given over their FTTP network. I have high doubts it will get terribly better; as neither company executives are pushing for the kinds of upgrades that would ensure NODE integrity; whether thats from paltry VDSL caps or docsis NODE overload.

If comcast were serious about upgrades, they would have surpassed 12mbit system-wide by now.. Cablevision beat them to 15mbits YEARS ahead of schedule. Nodes capped at 3-6mbits are a JOKE operating at docsis 1.0 speeds at PREMIUM bundle prices (** These remaining nodes should have been upgraded by the end of Q4/2007). As for AT&T, vdsl should start @ 15bits per INTERNET CONNECTION SYMMETRIC, that was the WHOLE POINT of doing VDSL-- the architecture could support symmetric speeds below 100mbits per subscriber, anything less is quite honestly cheating the consumer.


Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
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Good interview Karl

Very informative and your questions were to the point.

If anything, Comcast has shown that they're very willing to keep customers at the leading edge of the technology curve even if there isn't necessarily any real competitive competition in the area. Proof of that is with things like Powerboost. Nothing comes close to these speeds in most areas but yet, it's a no cost add on for most if not all customers these days. Personally, I think we'll be seeing the same with docsis 3.0 next year and the years that follow and I fully expect that they'll be raising the bar wherever they can and offering some great tiers and packages for people to subscribe to.

I'm more than happy to be a comcast customer.
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The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic!
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