Nightshade
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2 edits | Hopefully
It don't matter if it's the best thing in the world for sprint. If the investors don't want it, then it will not happen.
Hopefully the investors will feel the same way about Xohm as they do about residental fiber.
Hopefully the investors will not shoot themselves in the foot by worrying about the here and now, rather what is best for the company's future.
Only time will tell. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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| Dont drop WIMAX.....
I doubt Sprint will drop Xohm completely. Having a viable local loop alternative is what sets companies apart these days. Any investor can see that companies with a solid business plan (ie. no UNE-P crap) make business sense in this consolidated marketplace. My bet is that the dollars and cents of this will keep it afloat.
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hitman_001
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| If they stop now they are done.
quote:
They should stop the WiMax rollout immediately," said Patrick Comack, an equities analyst with Zachary Research. "They need to get back to the basics and learn how to run a wireless company. This means focusing more on the present rather than the future."
I'm sorry but thats about the most retarded thing i've ever heard. People scream and moan about incumbant providers and how things should change to better serve the customer. Sprint was heading down that path with Wimax, no contracts, no subsidies, Wimax would service thousands of items in our everyday lives. Its the one thing that would boost sprint above and beyond any wireless provider today, with the restrictions and limits and 2 year contracts they shove down your throats with early termination fee's, the list could go on. If anything all these companies should FORGET how to run a wireless company, and start over fresh, doing it right this time. Sprint isnt perfect, and Gary Forsee certainly wasnt. But if there was one thing Sprint had going for them, it was Wimax.
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BillRoland
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| You're not looking at reality though. They are going to lose another 300,000 contract subscribers, this quarter alone. You can't possibly build out a successful WiMAX network if you don't even know how to run what you've got. The problem is that Sprint is now hemorrhaging subscribers and money at alarming rates. If this keeps up, there will be nothing left to spend on WiMAX anyway. I don't think anyone is arguing that WiMAX is a bad idea, but you've got to have your own house in order before you go out and attempt something like this, and Sprint doesn't even know where its house is, much less how to put it in order.
And sorry, but comparing Sprint investors on the WiMAX situation to Verizon's investors on the FiOS project is like comparing apples to beef. The Sprint investors have legitimate concerns.
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
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| reply to hitman_001
said by hitman_001  : quote:
They should stop the WiMax rollout immediately," said Patrick Comack, an equities analyst with Zachary Research. "They need to get back to the basics and learn how to run a wireless company. This means focusing more on the present rather than the future."
I'm sorry but thats about the most retarded thing i've ever heard. People scream and moan about incumbant providers and how things should change to better serve the customer. Sprint was heading down that path with Wimax, no contracts, no subsidies, Wimax would service thousands of items in our everyday lives. Its the one thing that would boost sprint above and beyond any wireless provider today, with the restrictions and limits and 2 year contracts they shove down your throats with early termination fee's, the list could go on. If anything all these companies should FORGET how to run a wireless company, and start over fresh, doing it right this time. Sprint isnt perfect, and Gary Forsee certainly wasnt. But if there was one thing Sprint had going for them, it was Wimax. The thing people dont understand is that Wimax doesnt need to be limited to a "wireless" offering. Wimax can take the place of standard "wired" offerings like DSL and cable if implemented correctly. Sprint has the opportunity to reach vast numbers of customers (both business and residential) without spending a single penny digging up roads and building conduit. For residential users who dont need super strong SLA's, this is a no brainer for Sprint.
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jgkolt
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they need to work on maintaining one single platform. Push all the nextel customers to sprint and make sure the towers are in place before they do this (to replace the nextel ones).
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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| reply to BillRoland
Re: If they stop now they are done.
said by BillRoland :You're not looking at reality though. They are going to lose another 300,000 contract subscribers, this quarter alone. You can't possibly build out a successful WiMAX network if you don't even know how to run what you've got. The problem is that Sprint is now hemorrhaging subscribers and money at alarming rates. If this keeps up, there will be nothing left to spend on WiMAX anyway. I don't think anyone is arguing that WiMAX is a bad idea, but you've got to have your own house in order before you go out and attempt something like this, and Sprint doesn't even know where its house is, much less how to put it in order. And sorry, but comparing Sprint investors on the WiMAX situation to Verizon's investors on the FiOS project is like comparing apples to beef. The Sprint investors have legitimate concerns. I tend to agree... WiMAX may be a good offering, but if Sprint can't keep its CURRENT business floating (dumping Gary was to appease investors, I assume), then it may find itself in a tight financial crunch attempting to deploy WiMAX.
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bshelly
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clubs: | Xohm or bust!
This IS the only thing Sprint has going for it going forward. The investors need to relax. This will bring Sprint ahead of all of the competition.
Spend $$$ and build now or fall further behind. |
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myokitis
join:2004-06-19
Alexandria, VA
| reply to wifi4milez
Re: If they stop now they are done.
I think you're partially correct but I disagree w/ your conclusion . . . Keep in-mind that while FTTH is indeed expensive, it is an established technology. WiMax is still an unproven pie-in-the-sky technology that's never been deployed on a large scale. Given the high amount of financial risk (i.e. uncertainty)invloved, investors have a legitimate concern of a large investment (bet?) in an unproven technology by a company in Sprint's condition.
If they bet the farm on this and run into some sort of unforseen operational difficulties, Sprint will be finished, quickly. If they stabilize their core operations, however, then they can afford to bear more risk. |
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hitman_001
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Laredo, TX
| reply to BillRoland
I believe im looking at reality correctly.. And i certainly dont disagree with putting the house in order, Sprint has to get themselves and nextel together and dear lord... Fix that awfull customer service, Finish deploying evdo, and quit leaving jobs half ass done before they start on Wimax. But completely shutting it down? lol.. I dont think thats the right thing to do at all.
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texans20
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Texas!
clubs: | The Future
Investors only care about tomorrow, or next quarter. They fail to think long term, sometimes. Fact of the matter is, data is the future. |
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myokitis
join:2004-06-19
Alexandria, VA
| reply to bshelly
Re: Xohm or bust!
Hypothetically, if Sprint runs into some sort of unforseen operational difficulties that prevent it from recovering a large capital expenditure in a timely fashion, while still hemmoraging it's core business . . . do you think it could continue as a viable business?
So much can go wrong in the real world . . . RF propagation issues, CPE/equipment availability issues, etc.
If the plan isn't implemented flawlessly then they have no cushion to rely upon. |
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD | yes
Diversify or die. Its that simple. Verizon has no choice. They were losing close to a million landlines to cable companies a year. It was Verizon's only choice to go fiber. |
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DaveNJ
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| Sprint needs to get on GSM family bandwagon
Sprint doesnt realize what it has, its a good alternative, but technological not attract. If Sprint moves to LTE, like Verizon, it will fall into the fold. But Sprint isnt attractive to customers in its present state. With competition coming down the line. Joining the Gsm family will lower its expenses, and will make it more attractive to customers. Sprint should have gone GSM/UMTS when it merged with nextel. Now its again odd man out in standards.
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wonderer
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| If they don't do it now...
Someone else will. I can see AT&T grinning on this development. Why do you think AT&T purchased a swath of 700MHz spectrum yesterday for 2.5$ Billion. They don't have anything in the current spectrum for Wimax specs, but apparently accdg. to Intel the 700 MHz profile is in the works for Wimax as well . I think AT&T saw the potential of Wimax in Chicago and they don't want to be left behind. Anyway, just my specualtion.... |
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flyingjoey
join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ
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| Does this mean no wireless for me!
Does this mean I won't have wireless broadband next year?
FCUK! I really was looking forward to going fulltime wireless. I invested $4k+ on a new laptop to replace my desktop, and was going to drop my cable internet service in favor of (although slower) Wimax so that I could truly be mobile.
Yet again, Sprint breaks my freaken heart, fcuks with my future plans and the investors fail to look at the bigger picture.
Bigger picture according to me:
Verizon is has a good network, yet not very flexible when it comes to data services, AT&T (GSM blows in terms of voice quality), and I’d rather use a 14.4 modem than EDGE, T-Mo I’ve seen data move faster at 300 baud than with T-Mo’s data services now Sprint is a different animal. Sprint’s Data Service is beyond great, flexible and the best and most affordable out there. But they don’t know how to sell themselves. For starters customer service reps should have brains larger than a peanut.
If Sprint scales down their WiMax initiative they might as well become the next MCI. High Speed data services availability is the only thing that sets Sprint apart and only the only advantage it has over the rest of the providers. The only way sprint will have an advantage over the competition is by having HIGHER speeds & data services availability, therefore the next guy has to always play catch up.
Sprint – Verizon – T-Mo – AT&T they all offer the same core of services… a wireless phone and multi-media (who cares about TV on a phone) their costs are very much the same. It what they offer beyond the basic stuff that will set them apart. |
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flyingjoey
join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ
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| reply to DaveNJ
Re: Sprint needs to get on GSM family bandwagon
the day sprint goes GSM that's the day they will loose me as a customer.
the GSM Crap works well for Europe and Asia. Forget the rest of the world... I only care about what i need to use right here at HOME.
I've seen GSM in acction... I even have a GSM phone it SUCKS! |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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| reply to hitman_001
Re: If they stop now they are done.
With the amount of investment in spectrum (100MHz of 2.5GHz is HUGE!), they'll have to perform, or some other company will purchase them while their stock is hurting, or Sprint will be forced (by nervous investors) to spin off Xohm.
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to Nightshade
Re: Hopefully
Sprint has never, ever, followed through on any project outside their core business. This won't be any different. Ask anyone who lived through Sprint Broadband Direct or ION for details.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK | reply to Nightshade
Hopefully the investors will feel the same way about residential fiber as they do about Xohm. Are you saying you hope the investors NIX residential fiber, or did you mean "Don't feel the same way"? |
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