Freezone
join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI | Looking to move to NYC
Ok I can not take being a broadband have not. I want this so bad. |
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Jeffrey
too dark too early
Premium
join:2002-12-24
Dix Hills,NY
clubs:
 ·Optimum Online
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Vonage
·magicjack.com
|  Nice deal
Wow. $65 for 20/20 is really, really good. If this is all true, I hope it's offered 35 miles to the east--I'd pick that up.  I'm paying $50 or $55 right now for 20/5.
If true, I wonder if this is just NYC and surrounding burroughs (specifically) or if this is another one of Verizon's regional increases to compete - in NYC with Time Warner or with Cablevision out a little further.
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Lumberjack
Premium
join:2003-01-18
Newport News, VA
1 edit | Um, yeah
Considering the 30/5 tier in the Hampton Roads area costs upwards of $99/month (the 20/2 is $49/month) I'm thinking this tier if offered will be around $200/month here.
I really hope Verizon and Cox get into some pissing match so I can finally get the FiOS speeds of other markets in this area.
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
·Verizon FIOS
2 edits | Best ISP in the US, but...
I think Verizon FIOS is the best ISP in the US right now, but they really need to stop with this market BS and provide their services equally.. They are really discriminating, they offer speeds based on competition and there has been 16megabit Comcast here in MD for over a year now (maybe 2 years?) and yet they are still 15/2, yet there are some areas that barely have competition or have just recently got competition and have had 20/5 for a long time now.. Sure it's their network but this type of discriminative activity should be illegal in any business... Also they need to stop being so spotty with their deployment, they started with this county around when FIOS was just announced, but it will probably be another year or so before it's actually available here.
On with the topic: It's about time symmetrical speeds are provided.. But how long before people abuse it with servers, and torrents maxing their upload all the time? I'm sure the FIOS headend can only support a few people consuming 20megabit.. If they are peering with OC12, it will only take 30 people to consume the entire thing. Even OC48 wont be able to handle such abuse from torrent seeders.
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SteveLV702
Premium
join:2004-04-22
Henderson, NV | reply to Lumberjack
Re: Um, yeah
I'm in hampton roads (Virginia Beach) and can't even get fios yet so I am stuck with Cox Cable and since I need a Static IP for work I am forced to get a Business Account and pay $120/mo + $5 per static IP.. |
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KenAF
join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA | reply to Vamp
Re: Best ISP in the US, but...
Services cannot be provided equally because costs are not equal across regions. Bandwidth costs Verizon far less in the NYC area as compared to Maryland (and most other states).
It's like buying gas in Saudia Arabia vs. the US. |
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MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| reply to Vamp
said by Vamp  :On with the topic: It's about time symmetrical speeds are provided.. But how long before people abuse it with servers, and torrents maxing their upload all the time? I'm sure the FIOS headend can only support a few people consuming 20megabit.. If they are peering with OC12, it will only take 30 people to consume the entire thing. Even OC48 wont be able to handle such abuse from torrent seeders. Maybe that's the reason they're not launching the higher tiers in all markets. Maybe it's offered based on the backbone capacity in an area? |
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DMS1
join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX
| reply to Jeffrey
Re: Nice deal
said by Jeffrey :I'm paying $50 or $55 right now for 20/5. Lucky you. In Texas - the birthplace of FiOS - I'm paying $55 for 15/2 (and I think if you sign up now it is $65). |
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scottiemobes
join:2007-10-15
Nutley, NJ
| the war has yet to begin
I suspect 20/20 will be the norm VERY soon. I don't believe this will be priced at $65 forever. The market will correct itself in New York as Cablevision, Time Warner, and Comcast will have no choice but to invest heavily to increase bandwidth. The broadband war has not yet begun in NYC/NJ. Verizon's 20/20 offering WILL trigger a major price/features war. If this is true, the consumer will benefit in a HUGE way. |
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs:
·Verizon FIOS
 ·Speakeasy
| Nice, but business...
20/20 would be sweet - about time symmetrical speeds were available. But personally I'd rather see more improvement and better pricing on the business side. It sucks that in order to run a basic webserver and get just 1 static IP, the costs are so much higher. I don't NEED the speed but I do need more flexible service. Happy to get a business tier, but would much rather have, say, 5/5 with static IP and servers allowed for $50/month. Be on that like flies on cookies...
KM
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gatorkram
Spelling and Grammer impared
Premium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
clubs:
·Embarq
 ·linode
|  WoW
Now that is what I call raising the bar. To bad they can't roll this out to the entire country. I wonder where I'd have to move to, to even be able to get FIOS. Hmmm...
This goes to show, that when it comes to price, everyone is full of crap when they say upstream is to expensive to provide.
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to DMS1
Re: Nice deal
said by DMS1 :In Texas - the birthplace of FiOS - I'm paying $55 for 15/2 (and I think if you sign up now it is $65). If you don't mind saying, what ISP is this? I'm still getting 5-7/0.4 for $47. |
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Lumberjack
Premium
join:2003-01-18
Newport News, VA
| reply to SteveLV702
Re: Um, yeah
said by SteveLV702 :I'm in hampton roads (Virginia Beach) and can't even get fios yet so I am stuck with Cox Cable and since I need a Static IP for work I am forced to get a Business Account and pay $120/mo + $5 per static IP.. Fios isn't any cheaper. Verizon seems to just want to match Cox vs undercut them, so right now there isn't not much competition. I actually still have Cox since Verizon has yet to fix my billing problems (what a story that is) and I'm afraid they'll delete my account again.
When I get around to it I'm going to call Cox and turn my service off unless they offer me a unfiltered bus. package with static for less than $70/mo (I'll even agree to a 2yr contract for that).
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SteveLV702
Premium
join:2004-04-22
Henderson, NV | ya I would rather pay $99/mo for 30/5 then the $120/mo I pay now for 15/2 from Cox |
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Lumberjack
Premium
join:2003-01-18
Newport News, VA
| said by SteveLV702 :ya I would rather pay $99/mo for 30/5 then the $120/mo I pay now for 15/2 from Cox Me too but that isn't static and it's filtered. The business eqiv for that speed is stupid nuts. The only package that seems reasonable for home usage (business wise) is the 15/2 (it might be 20/2) and that's going to run around $120/mo with a static. Unless they've changed rates recently.
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davoice
join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
·Comporium
| reply to KenAF
Re: Best ISP in the US, but...
said by KenAF :It's like buying gas in Saudi Arabia vs. the US. Bad analogy. Refined gasoline is actually very expensive on a comparative wholesale basis in Saudi Arabia b/c much of the gasoline refinement capacity is outside of their area.
Prices are set by the government run monopoly to keep the king looking good and thus consumer fossil fuels are often sold without profit or at a loss. (Remember, SA has a monarch not a president.)
»www.huffingtonpost.com/raymond-j···677.html
The cheapest gas is actually in Venezuela. Price in last 2006 survey results was $0.12/gallon.
»money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/···ice.html
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to KoolMoe
Re: Nice, but business...
Don't expect it as long as Verizon is the only person offering 20/20. I really hope they deploy this through all their Fios zones, and advertise it, forcing other broadband providers to compete on upload speeds. Once they are really competing, things like business service will come into play.
I think computers are at that point, where anything out nowadays is going to be fast enough, people are looking at other things than clock speed. Right now, people only look at the price and download speed, eventually it will be fast enough that people look at price and features. |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
·surpasshosting
·ViaTalk
| reply to davoice
Re: Best ISP in the US, but...
said by davoice :Prices are set by the government run monopoly to keep the king looking good and thus consumer fossil fuels are often sold without profit or at a loss. (Remember, SA has a monarch not a president.) Since he's a monarch, what the hell does he care about "looking good"? |
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davoice
join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
·Comporium
| said by jester121 :Since he's a monarch, what the hell does he care about "looking good"? Something to do w/ someone else feeling empowered by Allah to be the new king and being brave enough to kill him. Kings who don't keep some level of good will w/ their subjects tend to eventually end up dead. (Unless you're a tyrant and rule by fear... insert Bush/Cheney joke here.)
}Davoice |
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TheMG
join:2007-09-04
Edmonton, AB | Lucky...
Consider yourselves lucky. In most (all?) of Canada, FTTH is still nothing more than a dream...
In fact here in Edmonton AB the highest you can get is 25/1 cable, which doesn't even hold up during peak hours. |
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