en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | It would be nice....
To put some of that unused capacity to work, wether its multiple HD streams or faster net.
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BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA | Humph
Too bad they force their u-verse TV service on you. |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
| AT&T consistently behind the curve.
It seems their game plan/business model is to do nothing unless they can bring up the rear after everyone else has innovated and implemented. Why even put out VRADs when mini stingers could supply faster ADSL2+ speeds to many more people. AT&T just seems to consistently stay behind the curve.
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
| a guess from the ignorant
I don't have any technical knowledge in this particular area, but I wonder if capping the pure fiber customers at the same 6M is because of the equipment at the headend or elsewhere. Maybe ATT is too cheap or not ready to deploy whatever equipment is required for faster speeds to the fiber customers.
would a legacy VDSL system be limited as to the speeds it could deliver over fiber? |
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EverAndAnon
@verizon.net | "...the fastest broadband that you would ever want to have."
I guess this isn't as subjective a topic as I thought. They'll be kind enough to let you know just what you would ever want to have. Well, that's certainly "nice" of them, huh? |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
| Consistancy
...they are aiming for "a consistent user experience across the board." It will be consistent when you can offer 100mb/s to everyone you provide service to, not just a select few getting FTTH or those lucky enough to be 'in-range' of your CO/RT.
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
| reply to EverAndAnon
Re: "...the fastest broadband that you would ever want to have."
said by EverAndAnon :
I guess this isn't as subjective a topic as I thought. They'll be kind enough to let you know just what you would ever want to have. Well, that's certainly "nice" of them, huh?
I was thinking the same thing. Talk about being short sighted.
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | 10mbps is ok but how about more upload
If AT&T can give 1mbps to the lowest priced tier surely they can figure out a way to offer 10/2 to elite customers.
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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA
 ·AT&T Yahoo
| reply to jimbo2150
Re: Consistancy
said by jimbo2150  :...they are aiming for "a consistent user experience across the board." That's like when they first rolled out DSL with PPPoE, and we had to use that EnterNet 300 garbage software. Remember their defense of PPPoE? "We want to preserve the dial-up experience for our customers."
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Neyland
join:2003-02-04
USA | I love my local telephonymonopolyinmylocalhometowny
While I personally feel ATT's plan is purely investor driven, lacking imagination, and wholly unimpressive from the country's largest telecom,
Cue Rick to explain it to you in 5.... 4..... 3.... |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to BodyBumper
Re: Humph
I know someone in MI that has U-verse FTTH and they only have Internet and phone and they don't have IP TV or coax cable. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to djrobx
Re: 10mbps is ok but how about more upload
I think there's a limit on upload on the VDSL2, but I don't see where the 'cap' is on upload, only a limit.
»Only 1 HD viewing at a time / COAX or CAT5?
quote:
Broadband Link – Statistics
DSL Down Up
Current Rate: 27264 kbs 2048 kbs
Max Rate: 106600 kbs Not Available
Current Connection:
Current Noise Margin: 28.5 dB Not Available
Current Attenuation: 10.2 dB Not Available
Current Output Power: 13.9 dBm -24.9 dBm
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to hottboiinnc
Re: Humph
Their sales grunt stated that you 'could' order a package (TV + Internet) and then cancel the TV portion. There were a few specifics that i had to drag out. They won't cancel it if..
You order an Internet service thats faster than DSL thats available to you today (i.e. 6Mbps/1Mbps is faster than the 3Mbps/512kbps that I can get).
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | is that for the v-DSL or their FTTH. My friend never ordered TV at all. even to cancel it. He told them he didnt want it at all and didnt get it. They may try to get you to sign up but not required at least there with AT$T FTTH |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to Neyland
Re: I love my local telephonymonopolyinmylocalhometowny
I would tend to agree that AT&T's deployment is primarily investor driven. While IPTV offers many new features, its limits are the physical deployment medium. AT&T will have to resolve those issues as some time.
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adsldog
join:2000-12-01
Woodstock, GA
|  Before ATT took over Bellsouth
Before ATT took over Bellsouth the IPTV project there was seeing speeds of 40mps using ADSL2+ at distances of 5000 to 7000 feet. And using MMX we saw speeds of 80-90mps, once ATT took over they scraped all of that and went to VDSL 1.5 which is only capable of speeds of 24mps and much shorter distances. I understand the need for BS to change the platform that ATT is using but why not offer multiple platforms when you already have it in place. Add to what they have not change it, they would have been able to server more customers some with ADSL2+, some with MMX and some with VDSL. If you have someone that id too far to serve with VDSL then you could offer ADSL2+. Just a thought. |
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs:
| There's only one thing that could start to impress me about
Uverse.
Well, make that two.
The first is to abandon it altogether and let the copper thieves rip the old crap wiring out while they replace it with FTTH.
And who knows? Maybe it's still early enough to salvage the name even.
Uverse..FTTH. Or..Uverse..done right. Or, finger lickin Uverse..or..something like that. So few people now have it anyway...I think the name could be salvaged for a new service while they quietly admit that Verizon..and Rick..have been right all along.
And, the second is..if they're REALLY die hard dead set against doing this and keeping the copper crap...make the whole service based on flexible bandwidth.
Open them pipes up as wide as they can go..for whatever a customer can get out of it. AND..make that bandwidth be available for whatever the customer wants it for at the time.
In other words..no ones home and you don't want to watch tv?
Let ALL the bandwidth be directed towards your HSI connection. 25Mb..50Mb..whatever you can get...with no caps at all.
If it's family time and you're all settling in for a night of HDTV..let the bandwidth be routed back towards that creating some REAL quality HDTV..uncompressed.
If you want two tv's on..and no HSI? Same deal.
It's all up to the customer to control and decide for themselves.
I think that this whole concept would truly create a one home..one connection type of service. User adjustable..flexible bandwidth..and a pretty cool service at that. Something new and quite revolutionary actually.
And, it WOULD let AT&T and their Uverse service compete with the likes of Comcast and others in terms of speeds..if the customer wanted it to at that point in time.
If you think about it..that is exactly what Comcast and Cox are now doing with their powerboost service. Except on a network level. If the extra bandwidth is there and not being used by others..we get it as individuals up to certain limits.
Uverse wouldn't have to have limits in that regard though.
It would be the customer who decides.
When you get right down to it..this whole idea of caps is needed..for what? 6Mb now they say. 10Mb next year.
Why? If there's a 25Mb pipe rolling into the homes now..with sync rates really as high as they say..the bandwidth to even blow away fios and comcast is there..RIGHT NOW.
It's just in how they're trying to divide it up.
AT&T..I think there is your answer.if you're still bound and determined to milk the copper.
Uverse..open it up all the way. Unrestricted bandwidth up to a persons sync rates. User adjustable bandwidth across all the whole service.
Even I could get excited about that.
~Rick
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etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
| ...and we think...
quote:
and we think that's going to go to 10 next year
Are you or are you not going to offer 10mbps down? If so when January, February, December 2008? Place your bets.
Uverse cancellations must be on the rise and of course there is that little DOCSIS3.0 thingie putting on some pressure. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL | reply to Doctor Olds
Re: AT&T consistently behind the curve.
and yet they have some of the best lobbiests. Shows where they have their priorities set.
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apeface
join:2000-09-16
Mckinney, TX | reply to hottboiinnc
Re: Humph
Not all ftth is uverse. |
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