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Comments on news posted 2007-10-15 18:19:28: With the addition of six new channels today (including Cartoon Network and Fox Business Channel) DirecTV says they're now offering 72 HD channels. ..

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ztmike
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100?

They got ALOT to add yet if their only at 72 (which is alot btw)

Glad to see someone is doing it.

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Cartoon Network in HD ?

As much as I would like it, sometimes it seems like it would be a waste of bandwidth since a lot of the content isn't in HD.

Seriously, how much better can Scooby Doo look in HD that it does in SD ?

Until Cartoon Network starts getting more content in HD, it doesn't make sense.
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 Fios is catching up

and Fios TV added a whopping 1 HD channel today


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reply to ztmike
Re: 100?

said by ztmike See Profile :

They got ALOT to add yet if their only at 72 (which is alot btw)

Glad to see someone is doing it.
Even if it is only HD-LITE.
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Re: Cartoon Network in HD ?

said by bmn See Profile :

As much as I would like it, sometimes it seems like it would be a waste of bandwidth since a lot of the content isn't in HD.

Seriously, how much better can Scooby Doo look in HD that it does in SD ?

Until Cartoon Network starts getting more content in HD, it doesn't make sense.
Are there ANY cartoons that are HD?
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I wonder how Dish Network will respond to this? Then too, I'm fairly sure (not 100% sure though) that Dish Network's HD content isn't compressed as much.

oh well...I still think the price for HD is too much. (with Dish at least).


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reply to dvd536
Re: 100?

said by dvd536 See Profile :

said by ztmike See Profile :

They got ALOT to add yet if their only at 72 (which is alot btw)

Glad to see someone is doing it.
Even if it is only HD-LITE.
It isn't HD-Lite anymore as long as you have a new Mpeg4 receiver.


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Re: Cartoon Network in HD ?

Family Guy


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Karl, Dish (ha ha)

said by karl :

I upgraded over the weekend to the HR-20 from an older "DirecTiVO" unit and was pleasantly surprised.
Well... Details man!

Was your old unit "hacked" in any way to allow transferring and saving content?

Does the new unit offer any networked features that legitimately let you pull content from the DVR and watch it on a PC and/or burn to DVD?

I'm so tempted to move, but I make fairly extensive use of the ability to pull shows off the box and save them for later. At the very least, I'd need to be able to put a way bigger drive in the new DVR so I could keep things around longer... is it mod-able in that way?
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Re: 100?

They are still hd-lite even with MPEG-4 worse than that most of these new channels are in stretch-O-vision which really sucks.


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sucks for me

Could not get DirectTV here and suck with cablevision.. at least all Direct TV needs to do is launch another bird.. Cablevision on the other hand is trying to figure out ways to save bandwidth.

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It Aint' HD-Lite anymore!

The new mpeg-4 compressed channels are not in HD lite any more, they are at 1920x1080i. However, the locals are rumored to be at 1440x1080, but on my 61in. DLP 1080p tele, I can tell no difference between OTA and locals over the satellite as the mpeg-4 compression is more efficient and seems to handle faster motion better than mpeg-2, now of course from what I gather DirecTV pulls the locals in my area directly from the stations before transmission to avoid any recompression, and 720p stations in my area are still delivered in 720p over the satellite. And the quality is much better than our local cable provider (charter), which had frequent dropouts and glitches, ick!

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Re: Karl, Dish (ha ha)

Yep, the new DVR has a port on the rear for a eSATA drive, but I personally have not tried it. Checkout »dbstalk.com where there is an entire forum devoted to direcTV's DVR's. Many people over there have used it with success and if you search you will find many tricks and tips for the DVR.


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Re: It Aint' HD-Lite anymore!

I am absolutely LOVING all these new hd channels. I don't care if they are hd lite or hd bloated, they look great and 100 times better then regular tv.

It is hard as hell to even watch normal tv now! Glad I have 72 channels plus my season ticket in hd as well

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Upgraded to the HR-20 over the weekend. Using a 32 inch Norcent LCD TV, bought last year because it was dirt cheap.

Watched the Bears on Fox 32, toggled between DirecTV's HD feed and the OTA feed from the antenna. Virtually no difference in picture quality, DirecTV's HD really looks great and we really have enjoyed it so far. My neighbor has Comcrapstic HD service at his house, spent an hour watching our HD service, and made the call to have DirecTV installed and his Comcrap service yanked out. Comcrap's HD quality around here is awful, full of dropouts and pixelation (probably from over compression on their RG59 trunklines strung all over town from 1981) overpriced, and not worth watching.

Go get 'em, DirecTV!


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reply to David803sc
Re: 100?

Ah - the "HD-Lite" naysayers....

You can't prove they're HD-Lite.
And I can't prove they're not.

Nobody has yet been able to "break the stream" to find out what exactly the resolution and bitrates are. Certainly, it's only a matter of time before there is proof one way or the other. The semi-official position is that the networks are 1920x1080 and locals are 1440x1080. Based on side-by-side comparisons of a cable provider and D* - they look the same.

As for "stretch-o-vision" - that's not DirecTV's fault. They're a re-broadcaster - passing on the content as it is provided to them. The guilty parties are the specific channels/network providers themselves - nothing D* can do about that.


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Actually there is hardware and software than can view the bitrate and resolution etc, of both DirecTV and DISH and the findings are posted on many reliable forums, DirecTV uses 1280 X 1080i on most of it's channels DISH is using 1440 X 1080i on most of it's HD Channels, bitrate various constantly based on many factors. You need to check your facts before you make posts about things you obviously know nothing about.
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said by sporkme See Profile :

Does the new unit offer any networked features that legitimately let you pull content from the DVR and watch it on a PC and/or burn to DVD?
The HR20 has ethernet - but it is there to allow "DirecTV On Demand" features - downloading of content to the unit to allow later playback. As linked on the front page article (to an earlier article), this capability is currently in testing and may show up in national release before the end of the year. The network capability can also be used to play music and display other content if you have a Windows Media Server configured on the same sub-net. Rumor has it that "multi-room viewing" is being worked on (sharing content between networked receivers) but it's pure rumor at this time.

said by sporkme See Profile :

At the very least, I'd need to be able to put a way bigger drive in the new DVR so I could keep things around longer... is it mod-able in that way?
The eSATA port is enabled on the HR20, but it is not an archive/move-it-around mechanism. When you connect as external drive and power up the unit, it disables the internal drive, formats (and "tags") the external drive, and uses it (the external) exclusively. The drive (because of the aforementioned "tag") cannot be unplugged and moved to another receiver. People have successfully attached 2TB eSATA RAID arrays to the HR20 for 'extra' storage.


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reply to David803sc
Re: 100?

Please feel free to supply any link to "the facts" showing where someone has measured bitrate and resolution of D*'s MPEG4 HD channel(s) off the D10 satellite (i.e. the "new national HD channels).
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