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Comments on news posted 2007-10-17 18:16:15: A few weeks ago we asked you to throw your questions our direction, and we'd try to get the most popular questions answered by ISP representatives. ..
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 | | Too Many Variables Billing by the byte would introduce too many variables into the system that would end up costing ISP's and consumers time and money. I also wonder how a large network would deal with this, say a school or your average corporate workplace. Everything would have to be metered internally and compared to what the ISP claims at the end of each month. What a nightmare. I meter my bandwidth on my home network for just the sake of knowing. Most people don't do such a thing, or even know what that is. Charter is my ISP and it took them 5 trys just to get service to my house. I doubt they would even know where to begin metering bandwidth. | |
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3 edits | This website is like FOX NEWS These writers keep inventing so-called news that only instigates the very issue they claim to be reporting.
Who is Karl? Is he even a legitimate journalist or just some guy who updates a tech-oriented website by e-mailing companies, asking them questions, and posting their replies by slickly inserting hyperlinks to past stories to back up his sensational claims?
Who is sick of seeing that picture on the front page of Stallone and Lundgren from Rocky IV every time he reports on anything relating to "competition."
DUHH you dumbass, this is a free world, companies compete. Stop reminding us with your crappy 1980's machismo film images.
The Inquirer is better, and reports news sooner. | |
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kd6caeP2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Palmdale, CA Reviews:
 ·Vitelity VOIP
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| uncapped network speeds I have a dedicated server on a 1000mbps network connection. I get 2000GB of bandwidth per month for a flat rate, if I go over, I pay overage. My point here is that I can use my full 1000mbps connection on my server if I choose, and so long as I don't go over my allotted bandwidth, all is well. So why couldn't ISP's offer that option. An uncapped cable/DSL line that allows one to use whatever their line can deliver, but set a bandwidth threshhold at which point users could either purchase more bandwidth to keep their line at full speed, or have it throttled back to a level that wouldn't hurt the ISP's network, like say 768/128 or something like that. When users that can afford a T1 line, purchase one, they expect to get the full 1.5mbps both ways. So why not offer consumers metered usage but uncapped network lines, while still offering unlimitted but slower speed tiers for those that want that. Data centers do it, why can't ISP's? | |
| | | | Re: uncapped network speeds said by kd6cae:I have a dedicated server on a 1000mbps network connection. I get 2000GB of bandwidth per month for a flat rate, if I go over, I pay overage. My point here is that I can use my full 1000mbps connection on my server if I choose, and so long as I don't go over my allotted bandwidth, all is well. So why couldn't ISP's offer that option. An uncapped cable/DSL line that allows one to use whatever their line can deliver, but set a bandwidth threshhold at which point users could either purchase more bandwidth to keep their line at full speed, or have it throttled back to a level that wouldn't hurt the ISP's network, like say 768/128 or something like that. When users that can afford a T1 line, purchase one, they expect to get the full 1.5mbps both ways. So why not offer consumers metered usage but uncapped network lines, while still offering unlimitted but slower speed tiers for those that want that. Data centers do it, why can't ISP's? cable is too much of shared network for that to work. | |
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| | WOW ,, here we go again ... This subject has been covered over and over for many years and the war rages on.
Let's keep it simple:
- ISP's will gouge as much as they can
- in time of dialup connections the the standard was 56k and 2/3 of that for uploads [keep this in mind]
- the internet was given to universities and public by USA DOD [department of national defence] for not having any real security and for sharing of knowledge for ALL. It's only when corporations came into the picture it got nasty.
- internet was mostly a happy place till Microcrap [microsoft] came along. With such an insecure OS [you call that an OS hahaha] the problems began: viruses, spam, bad code, bots, zombie servers and on and on. [keep this in mind too]
- here comes ADSL & ISDN:
- rates go up, bandwidth is way more expensive, users throttled to 25% or less upload speeds
- cable gets online, speed war starts
- war starts on Microcrap and all hell brakes loose > more spam, viruses/worms, bad code, intrusions etc. Someone forgot to tell the idiots at MS that as soon as you connect to internet you become a server
- ISP's have big problems with MS boxes, charge more, way more
- file sharing appz appear and ISP's scream for not buying proper amount of bandwidth, hence bandwidth hogs
-ISP's create server scans and blocks
RESULTS:
- internet is overloaded with MS crap: spam, spyware, big biz, worms, bots etc.
- intertainment industry is up in arms about theft, which they didn't insure for, and which they can't stop anyway
- big biz is bitchin' they can't get enough cash from you
- ISP's bitchin' about losses which they created by allowing insecure Microcrap on net
- privacy is lost due to Microcrap
- ISP's not providing 2/3 upload speeds as is custom by users, ripping customers off!
- users pissed about not getting proper service
- government stating speeds must go up to improve economy
Solutions:
- get Microcrap off internet till they provide a secure and bug free client
- switch to Linux or MAC
- kill spam websites and confiscate their equipment and property, maybe block those IP's at ISP level
- tell entertainment industry to wake up and smell the coffee, internet is FREE for any files anyone chooses to share
- You get on internet, you are an instant administrator, as an admin. when you get on OUR internet you are responsible to learn and administer your System, learn or get off!
- start using respect for others or be nuked, flooded scanned etc., this includes big business idiots
- block the war coming from China and likes
- start using honeypots and Tarpits in a major way
- encrypt the internet
- ISP's better understand and anyone has the right to protect themselves and their in real time. You have $1,000 to $150,000 [or more] of equipment at home you better know how to stop an attack and be allowed to do so without being cut off by ISP. Yes Rogers, that means you.
Best for last:
Keep your ISP honest by insisting on full services of internet. They are an ISP and Not a blocking service or cops. Test full speeds and sustained full speeds without repercussions.
If they advertise a 15 MB connection it better be so, Sustained and Unlimited. Of that it better be 2/3 uploads or more.
If you see your ISP not providing said [advertised] services charge them, send them a bill for loss of service. They can be charged for FRAUD!
This will drive the prices down to where they are supposed to be.
Most of all KEEP OUR INTERNET as FREE SPEECH, SHARING and SHARING of IDEAS for BETTERMENT of ALL.
Major offenders to our internet and freedom:
American big business, Security agencies, Spies, Microcrap, China, spammers, greed and anyone who opposes internet freedom.
Choose better ISP's.
Best Canadian one is Teksavvy.com. If not available in your area here is a good reference:
»www.canadianisp.com/
Last but not least: please learn how to make your system secure and keep it that way. You have the biggest library known to man right in front of you. If you still don't know how contact an experienced tech.
tudmax,
senior network and systems analyst | |
|  bencPremium
join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL
 ·Charter
| Why Should Customers Like It? I know I don't.
If I get a connection, it's with the idea that I can use it and transfer as much as I want, as long as I don't try to hack the ISP to get a faster speed I didn't pay for (uncapping).
Also, the Internet is a different animal than other things such as gasoline, electricity, water, and natural gas. Unlike utilities, data may be transferred regardless of what you're doing or not doing. If someone pings you, bandwidth is used. Even if you block pings bandwidth is still used since your PC must first receive a packet in order to deny it. The point is that there's really no control. It's not like electricity where you can decide if you need to flick that switch, and you have absolute control. To pay for bandwidth is like paying to receive letters in the mail. You'll end up paying for advertisements on web pages, SPAM, virii, and other nasties. If this is implemented, DoS attacks will be hundreds of times worse.
The only system in place now that both uses a pay-per-use model and you have no control is the SMS message. Any message you receive, you pay for. For that reason I always tell people that if they have a mobile phone they should block SMS. Without blocking, an attack could cost a user about $300/mo. more, if you figure 100 E-mails/day, converted to SMS, and the SMS cost $.10 each. In fact I'm surprised I haven't heard of any cases like this.
Another reason is just plain simplicity. When I moved in here, I had different choices for POTS pricing.
I could have chosen the option of a low monthly rate but a per-minute charge on domestic long distance. But there's no way I'm doing that.
I instead chose the option that allows for unlimited domestic long distance for a flat rate. It's simpler, and I never have to worry about what the next bill is going to cost.
I still have to pay-per-minute for international phone calls, but fortunately I don't do very many of those. | |
|  DKSDamn Kidney StonesPremium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2 | You Won't Remember this but.. ...this is how it used to be, many years ago. Data transfer was billed by the kilobyte. And it wasn't cheap.
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Need-based health care not greed-based health care. | |
| | | TV analogy Could you imagine having cable, you pay the same price per month, but you only get to watch it for like 40 hours a month.. it'd be ridiculous.
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| | |  ATT
You aren't accommodating broadband needs at all ATT.
You do know that tons and tons of people in your service area would willing get DSL from you if it was available?
Take of the drunk goggles and get to work. | |
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