hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
 ·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| LECs & Money
It all comes down to the LECs losing money from people changing over to Vonage and other VoIPs. Vonage is the largest so why not go after them is what they see? They can't go after Packet8 since they do have their own patents.
Just away to shut them down. The new american way- if you can't beat them sue them. |
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Jeffrey
too dark too early
Premium
join:2002-12-24
Dix Hills,NY
clubs:
·Optimum Online
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Vonage
·magicjack.com
| Waiting for the anti-Vonage fan boys...
"Stick a fork in 'em, they're done."
Vonage has survived so far, will be interesting to see what happens here. Who knows if the AT&T suit even has merit.
For me, I'm staying put until the dial-tone is no more. 
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"When you get lost in your imaginatory vagueness, your foresight becomes a nimble vagrant."
[blog] - I don't have to like Bush to love my country. |
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Hazeleyze
join:2003-05-09
Wauseon, OH | You ask me they're all acting like a bunch of two year olds.
"Mommy, he took that from me!" |
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Jeffrey
too dark too early
Premium
join:2002-12-24
Dix Hills,NY
clubs:
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FIOS
·Vonage
·magicjack.com
| said by Hazeleyze  :You ask me they're all acting like a bunch of two year olds. "Mommy, he took that from me!" That's big business for you. Can't beat e'm?...Sue the shit out of them.
Vonage has been or is in the process of being sued by four companies..
Sprint (settled)
AT&T (new)
Verizon (ongoing)
Klausner Technologies (settled)
I'd like the see the lawyer bills Vonage is paying.
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"When you get lost in your imaginatory vagueness, your foresight becomes a nimble vagrant."
[blog] - I don't have to like Bush to love my country. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | You don't have bills when their staffed. Its cheaper that way.  We'll staffed and salaried --- no over time. |
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texans20
Weapons of Masturbation
Premium
join:2002-09-28
Texas!
clubs:
| AT&T
They merged, but it's just a matter of time before they become a small company again. Landlines are a thing of the past, they're bleeding customers to cable companies along with people who just use a cell phone. T-Mobile has hotspot, and Sprint is testing a mobile CDMA tower that can go right into your home giving a perfect signal (and unlimited calling when attached to the device).
I know a lot of people who didn't want to drop their landline because they have a flaky signal at home. Well, once these products take off there goes more customers.
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The true patriot is motivated by a sense of responsibility, and out of self interest -- for himself, his family, and the future of his country -- to resist government abuse of power. He rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the state. |
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wombough
join:2001-08-30
Beaufort, SC
·Packet8
·Skype
| they are losign allot but that is why they are getting into the cable business. They are the only one that can offer a true quad play. Yeah TWC is offering wireless in a partnership with sprint. But my mom has FIOS with verizon cable phone and internet for 100 a month. and wireless for I think 40.00 extra. not bad. But verizon and att are the only ones in postion since sprint spun off their landlines! |
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MrMoody
Carbon Based Lifeform
join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC
 ·Embarq
·Skype
·magicjack.com
| said by wombough :They are the only one that can offer a true quad play. Sooner or later one of the big cable players will buy a wireless player (or vice versa) and then that won't be true any more, either.
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"It is a future in which globalization really does work ... and everybody winds up getting to be part of the third world." - William Gibson |
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seant169
join:2003-07-21
Forney, TX
·AT&T DSL Service
·Suddenlink
| LOL
Not surprised. LOL
Vonage is awesome and ATT sux
ATT is back together now to rule the planet
as the largest monopoly to uprise again .
There should be a new law or bill keeping ATT or any company from using the old shitty copper network that they rely on. and only fiber or better products be used in order to force them into the same laws as cable providers.
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prestonlewis
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-13
Sacramento, CA | AT&T Horror
AT&T (really SBC who took AT&T's name)=bad.
Vonage = Good.
Simply better (to use a defunct bank's service mark) |
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wombough
join:2001-08-30
Beaufort, SC | reply to MrMoody
Re: AT&T
yeah but their are more cable companies then local phone co. Like here in SC their are 3 cable companies and 1 phone. Were my family lives in NJ there are about 4 cable companies that I know of. And yup only one phone. Verizon! |
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Voyager2K2
join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to MrMoody
said by MrMoody :said by wombough :They are the only one that can offer a true quad play. Sooner or later one of the big cable players will buy a wireless player (or vice versa) and then that won't be true any more, either. Comcast had wireless in Philly anyway.
They were forced to divest the business when they started gobbling up cable companies in the 90's.
BTW Comcast -> Cingular -> AT+T
Isn't life funny? |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL | reply to prestonlewis
Re: AT&T Horror
ATT + Cash + Lobbiest + Kevin Martin + the court system = Vonage as toast!
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Burn a tire, but make sure you buy that carbon offset! |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
·Cox VOIP
·Skype
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southeast
·magicjack.com
| reply to hottboiinnc
Re: Waiting for the anti-Vonage fan boys...
said by hottboiinnc :You don't have bills when their staffed. Its cheaper that way. We'll staffed and salaried --- no over time. Apparently, Vonage needs better lawyers. 
Or, they could get rid of that moron Citron. 
Vonage is dying a slow death. Wonder when it becomes a penny stock and the full laughing stock that IPO really is? 
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Saving the world keeps me busy. However, I find Earth very primitive from my home planet of Krypton.
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| Vonage commercial..
In the latest vonage commercial they compare themselves to the "traditional phone company" who's been around FOREVER. The screen keeps edging the traditional phone company out to take a look at Vonage's price, service and customer benefits. One last quip; the only thing the phone company has changed is its prices (hinting at HIGHER prices). The only one who's getting edged out in REALITY is vonage.
Hmm..
It looks as if this battle is just about over.. by this time next year, there won't BE a Vonage. Vonage stopped their last commercials running the "people do stupid things campaign". The same can be said about Vonage running smack dab from one patent infringement lawsuit from a telco into another?!?
This does not bode well for the rest of the VOIP industry (excluding Cable voip, for the moment..) |
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dualsub2006
join:2007-07-18
Newport, KY
| There won't BE a Vonage????
Are you nuts? As part of their settlement with Sprint they were licensed over 100 patents that from reports cover every aspect of their business. The patent lawsuits will stop.
They have paid their settlements thus far in CASH as they had set aside funds. They have the 58 million for the Verizon verdict if/when they have to pay it.
With over 2 million customers Vonage will not just "go away". At the very worst they file chapter 11 and someone gets them for pennies on the dollar. That assumes that they don't sell before that happens. |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | When u get sued and are a big company insurance pays for that. |
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Jeffrey
too dark too early
Premium
join:2002-12-24
Dix Hills,NY
clubs:
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FIOS
·Vonage
·magicjack.com
| reply to supergirl
Re: Waiting for the anti-Vonage fan boys...
I wouldn't call Citron a moron. I'd call him a bit shrewed, but he's definitely no moron.
I don't think Vonage is dying a slow death. I'm very aware that your experience with Vonage was less than desired (probably because you weren't quite sure how to troubleshoot your issues), but I think to call them a laughing stock is a bit far fetched.
»Vonage Horror Stories
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"When you get lost in your imaginatory vagueness, your foresight becomes a nimble vagrant."
[blog] - I don't have to like Bush to love my country. |
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RickNY
Premium
join:2000-11-02
New York
| reply to brooklynman4
Re: Vonage commercial..
said by brooklynman4 :When u get sued and are a big company insurance pays for that. Until nobody is willing to insure you. |
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joeschuh
join:2000-10-02
Englewood, OH
| reply to dualsub2006
I can't say I have researched this and in fact it may have been discussed to don't get mad with me if it has been discussed to death.
Since the announcement of the Sprint deal my thoughts have agreed with dualsub2006 -- They've done this to protect themselves. "Go sue Sprint -- we licensed it from them." |
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