robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
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Wichita, KS | Nice
Now if we can rid the farmers of their 10-15 year old cell phones. 
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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|  Agree sale is good; but USF needs a bigger fix
I agree with FCC Commissioner Copps on this:
»fjallfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···85A2.pdf
As I explained in my dissent to the Joint Board’s recommendation (in May of this year) for a general CETC cap, piecemeal Universal Service Fund (USF) reform is actually counter-productive to the far more important goal of rationally implementing comprehensive reform. The USF is totally screwed up. Trying to fix the USF a sale or merger at a time is the cowards way of dealing with the mess that is the USF. They need to totally revamp it. Or better yet, get rid of it altogether.
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voipdabbler
join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT
| Agree about USF being abolished.
Having retired to a rural area after living in east coast cities most of my life, I agree that the USF is totally broken. It's not used for improving rural access or making it more affordable, it's just corporate pork plain and simple. It's time the fund was abolished and this ruse about corporations needing money to build out rural areas be dropped. The government can set policy and impose taxes to achieve those policies. Communication and energy infastructures are critical to national security, not just local economies. Set the policies and raise corporate taxes to compel compliance. I'm sure companies will pass a long a surcharge to cover their taxes, but at least it would be a more honest number than the methods they use now to "tax" for the USF. |
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ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
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Re: Nice
No offense, but they likely have those phones because they fit their needs. Not everyone needs or wants color screens, cameras, MP3 ringtones, and Internet access.
So the best way to get them to buy new phones is to offer them phones that have only the features they want. |
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Hazeleyze
join:2003-05-09
Wauseon, OH
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said by robbob340  :Now if we can rid the farmers of their 10-15 year old cell phones. What are you, some city boy that thinks he's better? |
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
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join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
1 edit | said by Hazeleyze :said by robbob340 :Now if we can rid the farmers of their 10-15 year old cell phones. What are you, some city boy that thinks he's better? No, not at all. The reasoning behind the E-911 debacle is the old analog phones. When I walk through the parking lot of stores around here you still see OLD bag phones sitting on seats. I realize switching to a newer technology is not always the easiest thing to do, but Alltel is the last network to allow these phones on their network. This past summer I saw a man around here at walmart talking on a Micro-Tac or equivalent. That does not make sense.
EDIT- Our county is known as the "Wheat Capitol of the World" It is many times been the leading wheat producer per capita of the nation. So stick the city boy comment somewhere else. 
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CMoore2004
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join:2003-02-06
Jonesville, MI
| I don't think they use these phones because they don't want to upgrade. They use them because they don't want to downgrade. I think the bagphones are capable of putting out 3W while a handheld phone isn't even 1W. I know we used to be in a fringe coverage area and the bagphone was the only thing that worked. I'm sure there are still areas a bagphone would work and my little handheld wouldn't. In farming, time lost is money lost, so having a reliable cell phone is worth it. I'd be willing to bet alot of them also have a regular cordless cellular phone, too. When Nextel and Centennial put up towers in our area, we got away from the bagphones. We now get Sprint, Alltel, Centennial, AT&T, and Nextel coverage.
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whiteyonenh
join:2004-08-09
Keene, NH
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| Regarding Bag Phones...
They do make CDMA and GSM bagphones, although many carriers do not carry them, although they should/may offer it as a special order option.
CDMA Bagphone
»www.motorola.com/governmentanden···id_2817i
GSM Bagphone
»www.motorola.com/governmentanden···id_2818i |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL | reply to robbob340
Re: Nice
Arkansas has cellphones? |
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toddbs98
join:2000-07-08
North Little Rock, AR
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| Not only do we have cellphones we have much better coverage than there is in the rural backwoods of North Florida where your lucky to get a signal anywhere outside of Pensacola, Tallahassee or Jacksonville. So before you go bashing other places you should look around at the backwards ass, redneck,trashy area of the country you live in 
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Simba7
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | reply to whiteyonenh
Re: Regarding Bag Phones...
Have you ever seen the prices of these phones? |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
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Re: Nice
yeah, envy is a terrible problem. Arkansas, home of the world's largest retailer, world's largest protein producer (Tyson) and the world's largest trucking company (JB Hunt). Nevermind the fact that it is home to the company with the largest cell coverage area. |
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gopnick
join:2005-01-07
Benton, AR | reply to supergirl
Arkansas has AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and Alltel 3G coverage. Last I heard, only Alltel had 3rd Generation wireless speeds in NW-FL.
OH, and Arkansas actually has a city.. which NW FL does NOT. |
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gopnick
join:2005-01-07
Benton, AR
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I don't think you know how this tech works.
The old phones work, the new ones do not. Those of us lucky to live in cities with good 3G coverage from 4 or 5 carriers are in the minority. Go get lost in a National Park sometime... you'll wish you had an analog phone from Alltel. |
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
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join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
1 edit | What the hell did I say in my post that was incorrect? The point I was trying to get across is that until Alltel meets E911 standards (E911 capable phones), they are going to be denied USF monies.
EDIT-Not sure if you were replying to me or the other dude. 
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Big Dawg 23
join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN | MY first phone was a bag phone. Although large it was the best phone I ever owned. Signal in the middle of nowhere with a full signal. If I am not mistaken the new phones are .5W and not 1w. |
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robbob340
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join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS | The OG phones were a full 3 watts. The links are above or below for the current models of bags.
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whiteyonenh
join:2004-08-09
Keene, NH
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Re: Regarding Bag Phones...
said by Simba7 :Have you ever seen the prices of these phones? Actually, I have... they're not cheap.
I would think that if having a cell phone is necessary for the livelihood of your business, that the cost would basically be an expense of doing business.
I do agree that people should not have to put forth the whole cost, but what other option is there when no other cell phone would work out there after analog is turned off?
Of course this news item wasn't about analog, it was about E911-requirements, which tend to require digital cell phones, and in the case of Alltel, CDMA-based phones. |
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Ulmo
join:2005-09-22
San Jose, CA
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What's the distance comparison for CDMA/GSM bag phones vs. AMPS bag phones? From what I recall, old AMPs car phones were 5W. They worked everywhere and sounded great. Nothing since has been as good, so I know digital is a downgrade, but how much in the case of the above two products? |
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join:2000-11-20
Chicago, IL
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| US Cellular says
Motorola m800
The Motorola m800, is a powerful digital bag phone that offers enhanced coverage. It can be used when traveling on rural or urban highways, or out in remote areas.
Get a $30 mail-in rebate on this phone.
$529.95
-80.00 Discount for 24 month agreement
-50.00 Instant Rebate for plans over $39.99
$ 399.95 Best Price
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