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Comments on news posted 2007-10-29 09:01:37: Earlier this month, a Covad insider tipped us off to the fact that the CLEC was shopping itself around to potential sugar daddies, with names like AT&T, Sprint and even Best Buy being tossed around as acquisition partners. ..


kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

Platinum got a good deal!

...Covad's share price crashed after the telecom bust a few years ago and never recovered. If you add up all the equipment Covad owns and all the licenses/regulatory approvals to do business in all the states as a CLEC....Covad is a gold mine and the buyer got a hell of a deal!

The challenge, of course, remains, to turn a profit in the artificial market conditions created by the ILEC/Cable duopoly and their deep pockets. ...but Covad made it this long on its own, despite all odds, and has a better fighting chance with a new owner with a little bit of cash.

This company has nine lives and I hope it keeps fighting the good fight.
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PhoenixDown
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Premium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1

Re: Platinum got a good deal!

I am amazed that Covad is still in business after their multiple bouts with bankruptcy.

It helps that they expanded their product line with line powered voice and traditional T1 circuits but I wonder the future will hold for them as a broadband solutions provider.

The last mile has always been the greatest challenge... I wonder if they will deploy wimax or some other type of wireless technology to over come that hurdle. If they did (and I think they might be the right company to do it), they could gain a lot of marketshare from the incumbent telco's and cable co's.

FAMILY2

@mindspring.com
will Platinum take it private or keep it on the AMEX

inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

well there goes covad.

private equity funds do one thing, buy a company to make money then sell it off in pieces.

fAcEtIOUs
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join:2002-03-03
kudos:4

Re: well there goes covad.

said by inteller:

private equity funds do one thing, buy a company to make money then sell it off in pieces.
And who are they going to sell off the pieces to? Nobody will want them. Maybe scrap dealers will buy some old equipment.

jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
That's the best possible outcome for Covad, they're pretty dysfunctional.

burgermeister
All Computers Are Junk

join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI

If incompetence were a crime, Hoffman would be in jail.

Instead he probably made a good deal of money off this buyout.

calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

Re: If incompetence were a crime, Hoffman would be in jail.

Maybe you think Hoffman is incompetent, but originally there were three companies that jumped into DSL in a big way: Covad, Rhythms, and NorthPoint. Only Covad survives. The others went the bankruptcy/acquisition route.

calvoiper
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sporkme
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join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
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Re: If incompetence were a crime, Hoffman would be in jail.

said by calvoiper:

Maybe you think Hoffman is incompetent, but originally there were three companies that jumped into DSL in a big way: Covad, Rhythms, and NorthPoint. Only Covad survives. The others went the bankruptcy/acquisition route.
Covad did go bankrupt. They got rid of their debt, yet still manage to bleed money every quarter... Terrible managment + ILEC scheming.

calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

Re: If incompetence were a crime, Hoffman would be in jail.

My point was that Covad has maintained (and, with its new owners, continues to maintain) its independence, unlike, say, NorthPoint, which fell into the ATT maw years ago....

calvoiper
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burgermeister
All Computers Are Junk

join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI

Re: If incompetence were a crime, Hoffman would be in jail.

Regardless, the stock holders get screwed (big time) and I'm sure Covad management will come out smelling like a rose.

Back when Covad stock was over 2.00, Hoffman said there was no way they were going to sell at those prices and than he goes ahead and sells for less than half that. LOL, I guess he didn't sell at those prices.
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HoffmanStinks

@piczo.com
Amen brother. I worked at Covad from 2000-2004 and the incompetence of the mgmt team and board is borderline criminal. The fact that Hoffman is likely to make out with $2-$5 million from equity and incentives for driving a company into the ground just steams me. He should have been fired years ago yet here he sits.

istart

@sddc.army.mil

ManagementNetworkEquipment

I worked as a xDSL and VoIP technician for Covad from 2000-2005. Covad has management visibility into just about every CO Covad has equipment. Lots of money tied up in equipment to offer the customer QOS. Covad has excellent teaming relationships with partners also! This acquisition for PE is a steal!!

inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

so marks the end of covad.

investment groups do one thing, buy and sell for a profit. covad will be pieced out to the highest bidder(s).

cableties
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Another Private equity firm...

...in ten years, we'll be cleaning up this mess of private holdings that buy up firms, chop them, and resell much like the garbage we see on HGTV with cheap-fixes to sell to unwary speculators in the name of a "short term" gain.

Oh well. I won't miss Covad. Them and a few others were peddling DSL to small businesses a few years back and were getting shaft from Bell-um Verizon for Loop tests ($150/per test). Too bad the database at Verizon wasn't, um, up to date and Covad got hit with a test loop fee, even though there was no CO with 18000' of the prospective client.

I think we should just start shoddy businesses, make them look great (hire someone from Trading Spaces!) and resell to highest paying private equity firm! Look! It's a steal!

CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County

While I don't see the new company...

making money, I sure hope they find a way rather than being sold in pieces. I love my Covad line (via SE) and if they go out - I might not be able to keep SE (which has been rock solid stable for many years)...
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supergirl

join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL

Re: While I don't see the new company...

said by CylonRed:

making money, I sure hope they find a way rather than being sold in pieces. I love my Covad line (via SE) and if they go out - I might not be able to keep SE (which has been rock solid stable for many years)...
I'd give your service a year, maybe two before they dump it after doing a cost analysis on customer regions. Equity funds buy and sell not buy and hold unless a good reason.

Must be value to be had in Covad otherwise some equity fund would buy crappy Vonage for $1 a share.

Of course, Platinum Equity could be using it as a nice tax write-off for far more profitable ventures. Huge prrofits are nice but free cash flow and large equity are better. But, that's not an equity fund's deal. Buy it, fix it up, and sell it. Or, sell it piece by piece to smaller players.
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kingofdsl

join:2002-12-11
Afton, OK

Re: While I don't see the new company...

Everyone at Covad should leave immediately.

Company I was working at got bought out by Platinum in September and I was dumped within a month.

fatness
subtle
Janitor
join:2000-11-17
fishing
kudos:13

Re: While I don't see the new company...

What company was that?

sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
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Re: While I don't see the new company...

said by fatness:

What company was that?
Someone with much more time on their hands could peruse this list and see what became of these companies:

»www.platinumequity.com/site/acti···rtfolio/

I know USR, they turned into a turd after 3Com bought them.

XBL2009
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Chicago, IL
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Telcom in America

is a complete sham. How else can companies like AT&T and Comcast stay in business. They simply bribe and lobby politicians to death.

If Google and Microsoft don't succeed in building a nationwide wireless system we will all be stuck with the old model that just doesn't work anymore.

DrStrange
Technically feasible
Premium
join:2001-07-23
West Hartford, CT
kudos:1

It's not necessarily the end of the world

I looked at the list of Platinum Equity acquisitions. The one that stood out immediately was US Robotics. I Googled '"US Robotics" layoffs' and found more news about Earthlink's recent layoffs than any layoffs USR might have had since the acquisition. I did similar research for a few other companies on the list. Again, no mention of layoffs. Either they're covering their tracks very well, or they aren't a 'pillage and burn' equity outfit.

I'm very wary of this, for all the reasons the doomcriers [who are generally right] have stated above, but it doesn't look like it's going to be snowing pink at Covad any time soon.

DSLTech5

join:2000-12-30
San Jose, CA

still needs approval, etc

also wont be done until Q2 2008.

at this point the only thing that could go wrong is frantic customers jumping ship.

of course shareholders will be pissed but $1.02 is better than $0.70; the market never was able to see covad's value, so going private is great.

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