jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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isnt it illegal to falsify the information there? I think there are sites that register it in their name but yo are the owner. like privacy guide. Since i used the privacy option from my registrar i get next to no spam on my webmaster emails
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amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America
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| private registration
I thought private registration was there for a reason... I thought that's why people paid the extra $$$ for such a thing.
Scammers seldom give their real info when setting up their fake sites anyway... I don't understand the point of this... Besides, if they scrap it, how are we supposed to do lookups on sites for legitimate purposes??? |
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Devanchya
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join:2003-12-09
Ajax, ON
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| reply to jgkolt
Re: illegal
I've only ever had ONE person contact me via who is. It was someone who was looking for a person with my name and a bad debt.
I've marked it private since then... just because.
Really the whois was meant to contact someone who was having server issues. Really not needed as much now. |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | jeporady maybe??
Ill take whois for three hundred please lol |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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Avalon, NJ
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1 edit |  reply to amungus
Re: private registration
To register a web site, there should have to be a verifiable address, phone number, and person. And if they can't be verified, they shouldn't get a domain name. And if that takes 3 weeks instead of 20 mins to get a domain, all the better. That would cut down(not eliminate) all the bogus scammer web sites out there.
Of course, the address and phone number can be kept private(except to law enforcement) so that people can't be hunted down. |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| Just don't reveal everything..
I think ICANN's WHOIS database should only display the name, city and state of the person who owns the domain, plus the other information such as registration date, expiration date, last change date, and nameservers. Address, Telephone #, E-mail address & Zip code should not be revealed. |
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kruser
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join:2002-06-01
Saint Louis, MO
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| reply to Devanchya
Re: illegal
said by Devanchya  :I've only ever had ONE person contact me via who is. It was someone who was looking for a person with my name and a bad debt. I've marked it private since then... just because. Really the whois was meant to contact someone who was having server issues. Really not needed as much now. I was contacted by someone wanting to design my website within days of registering the name.
He said he got the info from whois.
I made it private right then and never had another problem.
I also thought it was a matter of policy that a running site has a webmaster email address in place for people to contact you if needed.
I'm sure this is highly abused and I never did setup that email. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| Lies and Distortions
This is less a complaint from "privacy advocates," as in real privacy advocates for real people vs those who are registered and aren't interested in being contacted for legitimate purposes, e.g. process of service.
These self same "privacy advocates" are likely the same boobs who create a website and then proceed to pilfer money from unsuspecting consumers and they are upset because anyone who knows of its existence can just as easily check WHOIS and determine precisely where and with whom to contact when various nefarious activities are afoot with the registered site owner(s).
I've had countless occasions to use WHOIS in tracking down wayward website owners whose only contact information is found on WHOIS. In fact, if not for WHOIS, these website owners would all be largely phantoms with no way to contact them.
On a personal note, I am personally registered by name on WHOIS for several sites and I have yet to have my privacy violated and I enjoy my privacy very much. |
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MxxCon
join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs: | What will replace it?
whois database contains some critically important and 'exclusive' info...is there going to be something else setup to allow retrieval of such info?
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romulusnr
join:2007-08-01
Federal Way, WA | Some info should be public
I can find out who owns a building or a plot of land, I can find out who owns a car, I can find out who owns the patent on white-out, I ought to be able to find out who owns a domain. |
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gatorkram
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join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
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| Bleh....
I have always used fake info, until the last maybe 5 years or so, when they really started to crack down...
I hated having to pay someone else, to keep my info private, which most of the time cost as much, or more than the domain itself.
To me, it was a privacy, and security issue. If I run a website someone else doesn't like, they shouldn't be able to do a whois, and get all my information, and thus making it easy for them to bother me..
I pay with a credit card, like most people, so it's not like the registar doesn't know who I am. Why should anyone else need to know?
Having to pay someone to keep my details private, just goes to show, so many people want to keep their info private, that a whole new service industry popped up to support it, which I of course disagree with in the first place.
Keep it private.
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Madcap
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join:2004-06-26
Kenosha, WI
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
| Private Registrar all the way.
I pulled some crazy stuff in my days, but my first mistake was having my info on my domain. The people I was entertaining pulled my info off the whois registrar. Luckily I was tipped off from the inside, got my domain under privacy and have avoiding a rather unpleasant fate.
Today it seems you go private, or you deal with anyone who can use a whois. I personally have 3 whois services, and 2 geolocate services marked as keyword searches in Firefox. |
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tschmidt
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join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
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| reply to SilverSurfer
Re: Lies and Distortions
said by SilverSurfer : I am personally registered by name on WHOIS for several sites and I have yet to have my privacy violated and I enjoy my privacy very much. I'm in the same boat, have not had any trouble with Whois abuse of my registration info.
Domain Registration needs verifiable registration info. I think problems of phony registration credentials is a much bigger issue then abuse of Whois data.
/tom |
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lordofwhee
join:2007-10-21
Everett, WA
| There needs to be a WHOIS
If anyone can just register a domain, and nobody knows who they are, they could use said domain to steal identities, launch DoS attacks, etc, with no fear of consequence. Things like address and phone number NEED to be verifiable, but also kept private from the public. Only police should have access to that information, and even then, only with a subpoena, just like every other database that keeps records of personal info (well, the legit ones, anyway). |
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Tyler Durdin
@rcn.com
| Totally Pointless!!
WHOIS is a serious privacy concern.
Network Solutions forces you to keep the information up-to-date and says if you wish to keep it private, you have to pay more money. ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? Why should I pay money to hide something I never wanted published in the first place? ...they create the problem and then conveniently advertise a very expensive solution.
I have an easier method: Falsify all the information. I will never pay money for some greedy corporation to remove something they have no right to publicize in the first place. |
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flashcore
join:2007-01-23
Lutherville Timonium, MD
|  .US domains exempted from proxy registration
I don't really have an issue with the whois database as long as you can pay the extra money to use things like domains by proxy to hide your info from prying eyes. My domain use to be registered with their info but then an exception was made for all .us names and now you have to use your real info. If that is how they want to play then they should scrap the whole idea and just make it private. Of course all I use my domain for is to host junk so it has fake info but it only has that fake info because they wont let me use a proxy register to protect my personnel information. |
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frost203
join:2005-09-17
| reply to romulusnr
Re: Some info should be public
I love the whois system I have used it many time to lookup underhanded website owner, spammers ect.... Personally I think the database needs more verifiable info to guard the public from bad site owners, but at the same time I own my own domain and would like that the database not me accessible to information harvesting bots. there should be harsh penalties for harvesting and maybe registration required to view whois info. that way possible harvesting can tracked. Having no system at all would be a step backwards... |
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burgerwars
join:2004-09-11
Northridge, CA
 ·voip.ms
·RoadRunner Cable
| I say keep the WHOIS
I'm in it for several domains, and have no problems.
I find it useful when I go to questionable websites. If the info in the WHOIS looks like they're hiding something or is phoney, that tells me something about them. If it looks legit, I'm more comfortable with ordering stuff from the site. |
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
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1 edit | reply to lordofwhee
Re: There needs to be a WHOIS
said by lordofwhee : Only police should have access to that information, and even then, only with a subpoena, just like every other database that keeps records of personal info (well, the legit ones, anyway). Yeah. That'll work. The next time you get yipped by a website you believed was legit and it turns out they took your money and ran, or infringed your copyright, libeled your name by allowing others to post false information about you, etc., you can just call up your local donut eaters and I'm very sure they'll just drop everything for you when you ask them to hand over the previously available WHOIS info to you so that you can contact the registrant. Suuuure, buddy. 
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| reply to Devanchya
Re: illegal
I've heard MANY horror stories of mis-use from the WHOIS.
To be honest, privacy should be MANDATORY. If people want to contact you, they can use the proxy.. and that way registrars can monitor abuse.
However, getting rid of the WHOIS all together is not a good idea either. With all the domain sniping out there, there are legitimate uses for having that information available. Obviously, people are going to want to work to get the domain back - which sometimes fails no matter what you offer, and, other legitimate ISP uses for having it open.
But, I agree on the privacy issue.. people shouldn't have to give out their life story and personal information to register a domain, NOR should they HAVE to pay to mark it private.
my 3 cents.
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