satellite68
join:2007-04-11
Louisville, KY
| ...wait for it
Camp A Posters: Holy Socialist Agenda, Batman! The data will show the incumbent telcos and cablecos to be greedy, cherry picking, taxpayer shucking industrialists! The sky is falling!!
Camp B Posters: (whistling) Nothing to see here, move along, all is well, we've reached total saturation on deployment...
Neither perspective will be accurate, or correct, but will nonetheless get posted here anyways. |
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| said by satellite68  :<snip> Neither perspective will be accurate, or correct, but will nonetheless get posted here anyways. Please enlighten us with the correct perspective.
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
|  Some info from the bill
»thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c···3919.IH:
It will cost, at a minimum, $360 million over 3 yrs.
No speeds are designated as minimum for broadband, but the data collected will contain the speeds that are provided and will group them into tiers for statistical purposes.
The US numbers will be measured against at a minimum of 75 communities in 25 other countries.
The data demanded from ISPs will be at the 5 digit zip code level. But using other means the generated maps will be at the 9 digit zip code level.
The data and maps will be available to the public within 2 years of passage of the act.
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satellite68
join:2007-04-11
Louisville, KY
| reply to ib50MbSoon
Re: ...wait for it
said by ib50MbSoon :said by satellite68 :<snip> Neither perspective will be accurate, or correct, but will nonetheless get posted here anyways. Please enlighten us with the correct perspective. Perhaps a "wink" or [sarcasm on] would have been appropriate...  |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26 | Heh, half the House
probably headed for the bathroom stalls upon hearing the words 'broadband penetration'.
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17 | EVDO already covers over 220 million
Sprint/Verizon/Alltel already cover over 220 million population out of 300 with EVDO and will grow to 250m+ soon. They already have it mapped.
Should make it easier for the Feds to track what's left. |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online
| And Who Will Pay?
"It will also authorize the issuing of grants to help bring service to under-served regions." And just where will that "grant" money come from? Oh I know. They will start taxing MY internet service and up my USF so they can give cheap service to those who do not have it. I just love socialism, especially when I get to pay the bills and not get any benefit.
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| This is garbage anyway
In the past, they used the service providers own data to compile these ":broadband accessible area lists". These included 30000 ft from the COs for DSL and cable coverage that hadn't been deployed yet.
Shouldn't they not "fly blind" by verifying the coverage that we supposedly have now!
And for the top poster...you forgot C; the people that want to raise the USF (because thats what it would take)through the roof to get somebody in Lyndon Station Wis High speed internet so he can check his AOL email for his/her business!
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
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Re: And Who Will Pay?
Pay the bills and not get any benefit? WOW, that the kind of statement that fractures society. So by your reasoning, all the poor people should be left to die? I mean, you pay taxes to support your hospital, and they are providing FREE CARE. And in your world, why should we have an interstate highway system? I mean, YOU don't use it, so why should you have to pay for it? And the fire department? YOU haven't had a fire, so why should YOU have to pay for it.
The internet is a NECESSARY utility, if you want to be a productive member of society. The fact that someone choose to live in a 'rural' area shouldn't mean they are second class citizens. The internet is, and should be treated as, a utility. Which means that wherever you choose to live in the US, you should have access to it. It may not be cheap, but at least it should be avialable.
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| reply to satellite68
Re: ...wait for it
said by satellite68 :Perhaps a "wink" or [sarcasm on] would have been appropriate... Ok, here's my take on this issue. You tell me if I've got it right.
The phone companies already have address availability databases. Make them turn their data over to the government, at no charge. Assess heavy penalties or even jail time for inaccurate data. Problem solved!
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Yeah, that hasn't been going so well:
»www.publicintegrity.org/about/re···?aid=115 |
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Neyland
join:2003-02-04
USA | Again
How do you measure broadband penetration if you can't define broadband?
Would Satallite broadband count?
What about EDGE broadband?
ISDN?
Bonded 56k modems?
Does the word 'latency' show up anywhere? |
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Richard B
Fur It Up
join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR | We areFrom the Government and We are Here to Help
Why do you need government to track brodband penetration.
Is it to justify anther taxpayer funded entitlement to solve a trumped up inequality? |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Because the government regulates the wireline duopoly's? It's tough to hold companies to promises (they offered) when the same companies hold all the information telling you weather they've done what they've said. |
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TheRogueX
join:2003-03-26
Springfield, MO
·Mediacom
| reply to n2jtx
Re: And Who Will Pay?
Good.
I hope they tax your arrogance too, so you become poor and can't have internet anymore without help.
I just love free-market capitalism, especially how it turns people into greedy, arrogant bastards who treat the have-nots like they're subhuman and thus unworthy of a little help now and then. |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
 ·surpasshosting
 ·ViaTalk
| reply to karlmarx
said by karlmarx : The internet is, and should be treated as, a utility. Which means that wherever you choose to live in the US, you should have access to it. It may not be cheap, but at least it should be avialable. It is available everywhere. It's called Netzero dial up. And it's cheap!
Or did you mean to say that everyone should have the same high speed internet? That would be more in keeping with your namesake's views.  |
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satellite68
join:2007-04-11
Louisville, KY
| reply to ib50MbSoon
Re: ...wait for it
said by ib50MbSoon :said by satellite68 :Perhaps a "wink" or [sarcasm on] would have been appropriate... Ok, here's my take on this issue. You tell me if I've got it right. The phone companies already have address availability databases. Make them turn their data over to the government, at no charge. Assess heavy penalties or even jail time for inaccurate data. Problem solved! Well, unless the NSA asks for it, it ain't happening... |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA
| reply to satellite68
This, I totally agree with... There is a balance between the two. I say, let "free market" do what it is supposed to do. Make them keep the promises of the past. For people in the "sticks", the government needs to eventually step up. They have elctricity and phone out there, they should also have reasonable internet. I think 3 MBPS down / 512KBPS up is the bare minimum even in the boonies. |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA | reply to ib50MbSoon
Gosh, I like this... Do cable companies have this too? Or if it's available in one place in their system, it's available in all place? I mean, they should have this. Good idea! |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA
1 edit | reply to n2jtx
Re: And Who Will Pay?
Maybe they should take the USF that has ALREADY been used and put it to something it was supposed to be used for... We've already been paying it. Where did this first 10 years of money go? Corporate profits? It certainly didn't raise the speeds to 40 mbps both ways! |
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