esc0
@rr.com | FCC
"The FCC also insists that anything over 200kbps is broadband".
Your kidding right FCC? In my personal opinion if you can't hit at least 1MB your not using broadband. |
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rudnicke
Premium
join:2004-10-23
Rantoul, IL | Idiot
Martin is a moron. Plain and simple. |
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
| Lets introduce the FCC to the IRS
By doing so, we'll either end up not having to pay a penny in taxes due to lousy accounting, or know exactly how many broadband lines are being used, what they are being used for, who ordered the install, and how many kids are using them. 
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exocet_cm
I am the law
Premium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs:  | Wow
Their analysis is completely incorrect. I can give a bucket load of ZIP codes here in Louisiana that probably don't even know what broadband is. |
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jc1350
join:2004-09-23
1 edit | reply to esc0
"broadband" is being misused by just about everyone
broadband is simply multiple signals over the same wire (cable TV/Cable Internet and DSL/voice phone for example). This is opposed to baseband with one discrete signal on the wire (10baseT for example)
If you have cable Internet and it's at 25 kbps, it's still broadband
broadband has nothing to do with speed.
EDIT: I agree with your idea, however. Claiming an entire district is "broadband/high-speed enabled" because of a single install is bogus. |
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
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| reply to rudnicke
Re: Idiot
Martin is doing what the industry wants: everything he can so they do not have to make more in the way of capital investments in infrastructure, which is also what Wall Street wants.
On one hand, the industry as a whole cries "Don't make broadband a utility and things will improve at a far faster rate".
On the other hand, things don't improve at a far faster rate, but the industry keeps pushing for more deregulation and considerations from the FCC. They generally get what they want, too.
Martin also keeps BPL because the eletricity carriers want another revenue stream, technical problems be damned.
I predict that when it all shakes out, Kevin Martin will be considered something of a disaster for telecommunications and cable. They are gonna have to play catch-up at some point, and when they do, it will cost just that much more and leave more marks. |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
| Bells will fight this classification to the death
"Anything between 200 kilobits and 768 kilobits per second will be considered first-generation broadband.
From 768 kilobits to 1.5 megabits is to be considered basic broadband. In between 1.5 megabits and 3 megabits a second will be classified as high-speed service, between 3 megabits and 6 megabits called robust service and anything over 6 megabits a second called premium."
That would classify a good bulk of Bell DSL subs as 1st generation. No way they would let the FCC throw that label on them.
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA
| Four or more?
"It also tells us that more than 80% of U.S. zip codes have access to four or more providers."
Why do I seriously doubt that? I've heard too many reports of users who have a choice of the cable company or the phone company (and sometimes not even that many choices). Who are these other two choices? Satellite? Perhaps, but it's an option that few take. (More of a last resort for broadband than a first choice.) I know I have two options (Time Warner or Verizon) where I live and I'm in the middle of a decent sized city. Where are my #3 and #4 choices? |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
| What's in it for them?
They make as much money now as they can after upgrading infrastructure.
If they bring the rural area's into the present communication age, it would be harder to control them.
It's best to leave them in the dark ages, for maximun controllability till the 3rd world passes whats left of the US up in innovation. |
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dbarber
join:2000-07-25
West Chester, PA
| Four or more?
Quote:
"As usual, the FCC data suggests that things are rosy when it comes to broadband penetration. The chart to the left tells us that broadband is available in more than 99% of American zip codes. It also tells us that more than 80% of U.S. zip codes have access to four or more providers. "
End quote
Here is where the "one address in a zip code" formula breaks down. According to the FCC, there are multiple DSL provider to your zip code, but you happen to live too far from the CO to get any of them. Your ONLY choice is cable. Doesn't matter. You have choices according to the FCC's numbers.
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Richard B
Fur It Up
join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
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| Why
I do not see the necessity government involvement in this issue.gathering broadband data is up there with earmarks to study bear DNA.
This is just a back door for someone to justify an broadband entitlement or regulation in the free market. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
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Re: Idiot
said by TScheisskopf  :Martin is doing what the industry wants: everything he can so they do not have to make more in the way of capital investments in infrastructure, which is also what Wall Street wants. Your statement might make SOME sense except for the fact that the telcos and cable companies are investing billions of dollars in infrastructure improvements every year. Don't you read the qtrly company reports posted here at BBR that show how much they are spending every quarter on infrastructure?
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
| reply to Richard B
Re: Why
said by Richard B :I do not see the necessity government involvement in this issue.gathering broadband data is up there with earmarks to study bear DNA. This is just a back door for someone to justify an broadband entitlement or regulation in the free market. They already got thier back door entitlement, its called FUSF.
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bi0tech
join:2003-06-19
1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Idiot
Your statement would make more sense if most of these providers weren't decades behind in improving said infrastructure already. Verizon is the only large provider I recall that has actually opened up the ol'wallet for some forward looking technology. And they have taken a hell of a beating from shareholders for doing it. |
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cork1958
Cork
join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI
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| Opening line
Have to like that opening line to the article!!
"It's that time of year again; time for the FCC to release U.S. broadband data that's about as reliable as a heroin addict in charge of your retirement funds."
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jester121
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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Re: Four or more?
You missed the point -- they're saying that somewhere in the zipcode there are four choices -- maybe OOL and Comcast overlap a town, or maybe there's a tiny WISP operating.
It's crappy statistics, of course. What else would one expect from government bureaucrats? |
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footballdude
Premium
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| reply to esc0
Re: FCC
said by esc0 :
"The FCC also insists that anything over 200kbps is broadband".
Your kidding right FCC? In my personal opinion if you can't hit at least 1MB your not using broadband.
In my opinion, anything faster than dialup is broadband.
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to jester121
Re: Four or more?
said by jester121 :You missed the point -- they're saying that somewhere in the zipcode there are four choices -- maybe OOL and Comcast overlap a town, or maybe there's a tiny WISP operating. Wifi at Mcdonalds?  |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| reply to rudnicke
Re: Idiot
said by rudnicke :Martin is a moron. Plain and simple. Of all the people that Bush appointed,... why ini the world hasn't THIS one quit like the others??? 
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jester121
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Lake Zurich, IL
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Re: Four or more?
said by patcat88 :said by jester121 :You missed the point -- they're saying that somewhere in the zipcode there are four choices -- maybe OOL and Comcast overlap a town, or maybe there's a tiny WISP operating. Wifi at Mcdonalds?  This IS the FCC we're talking about.... |
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