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1 edit | Re: Wow said by Mike  :Only the lawyers win. Oh and before the comments become more than amusing.. remember when we were a consumer site? Yep. If the FCC does fine them 195k per subscriber, only two groups win: lawyers and the FCC.
Guess who loses? The same group that the FCC is protecting: the consumer.
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1 edit | Re: Wow I don't know. I doubt the people working at these groups really think they're going to net $195k per sub from an FCC with a majority that has shown it's little more than a lap dog to industry with only a passing interest in consumer welfare. If they really think this reward is possible, I've over-estimated them.
I think the groups' goal here is simply to keep illuminating each instance of perceived neutrality infraction, in the hopes they'll someday see an FCC chief who isn't a Milton Friedman devotee (and actually focuses on technology, not politics).
In the end the fear of regulation has been keeping ISPs from being real jackasses and blocking content, so the groups really are serving a purpose, even if there's no agreement on whether neutrality laws are necessary. | |
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| Re: Wow said by Karl Bode :I don't know. I doubt the people working at these groups really think they're going to net $195k per sub from an FCC with a majority that has shown it's little more than a lap dog to industry with only a passing interest in consumer welfare. Normally that would be true but the FCC isn't very lets say, Comcast friendly.
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Actually, I think the goal is more to get ink and generate a buzz
Part of the same mechanism. The fear of network neutrality laws is created by the threat of network neutrality laws, which is created by public outcry....
When you're talking about an industry that can convince the public through extensive disinformation campaigns that stripping them of consumer rights will result in lower TV prices, I have no problem with consumer advocates playing PR games.
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1 edit | Re: Wow said by en102 :Agreed... if big cable and big telecomm can spend money on astroturf campaigns, then why can't consumer advocates ? Silly, corporations have more rights than people do.
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The sad part is that if we rebelled and every person cancelled their TV service, do you think it would fix anything ?
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3 edits | said by en102 :Agreed... if big cable and big telecomm can spend money on astroturf campaigns, then why can't consumer advocates ? In fact, I'd argue they probably don't go far enough, considering that companies like Verizon hire PR firms to create completely bogus "consumer advocate" groups to argue their policy positions.
I'm willing to bet that the next thirty years will see a radicalization of the consumer advocacy movement (currently in some very serious trouble) just for this reason.
These press releases are marginally effective against what's become a massive sea of disinformation by lobbyists, guerrilla marketers, think tanks, etc. | |
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| Comcraps problem, is anybody that has them knows that all of the misinformation in the world won't lower their bill. Comcrap is the most arrogant of providers when it comes to pricing. Furthermore, this is the perfect example of how Comcrap and other providers could extort money from your ebays , googles, and yahoos by reshaping traffic so they have a preffered vendor type status.
I hope the FCC grows some and sticks them...
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| Re: Wow said by S_engineer :I hope the FCC grows some and sticks them... For what? They broke no laws and violated no FCC regulations. You sound like another advocate of fascist government where the rule of law is meaningless and private property is subject to seizure by the state. | |
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Fascism:"A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." [Robert O. Paxton, "The Anatomy of Fascism," 2004]
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Fascism:"A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." [Robert O. Paxton, "The Anatomy of Fascism," 2004]
No thanks. I'll stick with the dictionary definition instead of a polemic by some commentator.
»www.m-w.com/dictionary/fascism
1: a political philosophy, movement, or regime that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
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Kill all pirate for great justice, right? Show me where I EVER said they should be killed. On the other hand, bankrupted would be just fine by me! 
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In other words, the bush regime.
Name ONE thing the bush regime has supported which is BENEFICIAL to the people of this country? I am DIRECTLY affected by the illegal actions of this puppet government, as I am in IRAQ, as SEE the effects the 'bush doctrine' has given the american people? Are YOU better off than you were 8 years ago? If you are the top 5% of the US, then it's a resounding YES, for everyone else, it's a big no? Do you have MORE liberties, MORE freedoms, MORE privacy than you used to have? I think not.
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When has the Bush regime EVER considered that they derive their power FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED
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| said by karlmarx :Name ONE thing the bush regime has supported which is BENEFICIAL to the people of this country? (Rubs hands in anticipation) It's funny you mention that, since if I am not mistaken YOU are directly benefiting from Bush's policies! That very high paying job you have right now seems to be treating you well, eh?
said by karlmarx :I am DIRECTLY affected by the illegal actions of this puppet government, as I am in IRAQ, as SEE the effects the 'bush doctrine' has given the american people? Yes you certainly are! That high salary you told us all about seems to be directly affecting you. What would you be doing now if this so-called "illegal war" wasnt going on? How much money would you be earning?
said by karlmarx :Are YOU better off than you were 8 years ago? Are'nt YOU?? Again, you mentioned numerous times how your current state of employment was a financial boon to you, and thats why you accepted the job.
Whats that sound you ask? Thats the sound of good solid logic smacking you upside the head! Its kind of humbling when your own words come back to solidify the position of another, isnt it? For someone who's income is directly related to the policies and actions of Bush and the United States, you certainly are an ungrateful SOB.
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BUT, notwithstanding, just because I personally benefit from the corrupt regime does not mean I support it. Why, because I DON'T want to go back to a country that's in worse shape than when I left it. I WANT the country to be BETTER when I get back, and under the facist, neo-con, corporate controlled bush regime, that's NOT what I'm seeing.
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1 edit | Re: Wow said by karlmarx :I admit it. I benefit in a HUGE financial sense over here. The fact that I can clear over 300K a year moves me into the top 5% of earners of the US. Yes it does. The fact that you constantly bitch about how it should be "illegal" for people to make enough money to put them into that income bracket makes this situation all the more humorous. The word for people like you is hypocrite!
said by karlmarx :BUT, that doesn't mean I APPROVE of what I'm doing, I'm doing it because I benefit the greatest. Ahhh yes, doing something you dont believe in just because you benefit from it. Let's try this again, shall we?
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said by karlmarx :If I was back in the US, my equivalent salary would be in the 100K range. Very interesting! So you are saying its ok to make a business decision which nets you more income? Wow, that seems to directly contradict your myriad posts about how companies should give their services away instead of trying to make money! Perhaps I should spell it out for you; "hypocrite: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings"
said by karlmarx :BUT, notwithstanding, just because I personally benefit from the corrupt regime does not mean I support it. Why, because I DON'T want to go back to a country that's in worse shape than when I left it. I WANT the country to be BETTER when I get back, and under the facist, neo-con, corporate controlled bush regime, that's NOT what I'm seeing. Ok "KARLMARX", then why dont you take a proverbial stand here. Prove to everyone that you stand behind all the crap you have been spewing on these forums and quit your job! Go ahead and show "the man" that you really dont believe in the cause. After all, simply by being there you are supporting the very policies you claim to detest!
You obviously wont quit, and you will continue to benefit from your current position. You will also likely continue to post nonsense and contradictory statements about your beliefs. The great thing about the internet however, is that from now on whenever you say something stupid we can always link right back to this post!
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You are not under no compulsion to do it. You've stated that you would be making at least 100k in the states doing the same job, so you are under no financial obligation. Assuming you are of sound mind, the lack of compulsion means that you are in full control of your actions.
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| .. and tell me.. how has Comcast taken any of your natural rights away from you? Drop comcast, and for you, life will go on.
I'd love to hear more how you think Comcast = Fascism.. well, that is unless you believe that Comcast is a right.
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by S_engineer :I hope the FCC grows some and sticks them... For what? They broke no laws and violated no FCC regulations. You sound like another advocate of fascist government where the rule of law is meaningless and private property is subject to seizure by the state. We did similar stuff and used the same gear (Sandvine) at an ISP I used to work for. The difference being, our policies were somewhat liberal and only the most egregious file sharers were even able to notice.
The issue here, is not so much that Comcast is taking traffic shaping steps, it's that Comcast traffic management policies appear to be driven by morons.
They deserve all the bad press they get, and then some.
It's obscene that they initially interrupted WoW updates...how can an engineer be so ignorant as to not include the Blizzard servers in the 'exclude" policy.
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1 edit | said by TKJunkMail :said by S_engineer :I hope the FCC grows some and sticks them... For what? You sound like another advocate of fascist government where the rule of law is meaningless and private property is subject to seizure by the state. Since when does consumer advocacy earn the title of facism?
Do you feel the same way about the utility groups that oversee your gas, electric and telephone lines...
The FCC has every right to oversee the practices of a data provider that is an element of a national economy!
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| said by Karl Bode :In the end the fear of regulation has been keeping ISPs from being real jackasses and blocking content, so the groups really are serving a purpose, even if there's no agreement on whether neutrality laws are necessary. Why would any ISP in the USA want to block content? Break out the foil man.. | |
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| Re: Wow said by JTRockville :said by Rob :Guess who loses? The same group that the FCC is protecting: the consumer. Comcast would definitely raise prices to balance of the 195k/subscriber they have to pay out. Comcast subscribers would surely lose if Comcast passes the fine on down to them (which they surely will). But it would be a win for the rest of us. If Comcast does get fined, other ISPs would hopefully take note and refrain from this draconian practice. Other ISPs would still raise rates now knowing that they cannot use the same methods.
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The users would just transfer to one of the FOUR available high-speed Internet service providers available in their ZIP code. | |
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| Re: A great sign... Wow - what socialists views in this thread...
never a once in all almost 100 posts has ANYONE posted a law comcast actually violated or any rule that shows comcast needs to be fined this ridiculous amount per subscriber.
This is as stupid as people believing that Santa exists.
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Case law says if a ISP does some filtering, then it assumes complete liability for the content, and looses common carrier privileges. As long as a ISP automatically passes and deals with data, it is not liable. BT filtering says that ISP does filter, and therefore will be responsible for all content. Law says you can't do a half assed job, either your responsible, or your not. Now whether common carriers still exist according to the FCC.............. | |
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I don't want my bill to go through the roof because of this. It's high enough already.... | |
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If comcast is the ONLY choice in many of these places where they take too much advantage of the customer... there is DEFINITELY room for a MUNICIPAL roll-out of broadband, phone and cable-tv service. The more comcast's footprint gets littered by the likes of competition from telco and municipal competitors, the sooner there will be wholesale improvement of these conditions that amount to a blog-lynching... if you truly want to change comcast.. take their money away from them by going to or creating competitors! | |
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"Comcast does not, has not, and will not block any Web sites or online
applications, including peer-to-peer services, and no one has demonstrated
otherwise. We engage in reasonable network management to provide all of our
customers with a good Internet experience, and we do so consistently with
FCC policy.
As the FCC noted in its policy statement in 2005, all of the principles
to encourage broadband deployment and preserve the nature of the Internet
are 'subject to reasonable network management.' The Commission clearly
recognized that network management is necessary by ISPs for the good of all
customers."
About Comcast
Comcast Corporation (Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK) (»www.comcast.com) is
the nation's leading provider of cable, entertainment and communications
products and services. With 24.2 million cable customers, 12.9 million
high-speed Internet customers, and 4.1 million voice customers, Comcast is
principally involved in the development, management and operation of
broadband cable systems and in the delivery of programming content.
Comcast's content networks and investments include E! Entertainment
Television, Style Network, The Golf Channel, VERSUS, G4, AZN Television,
PBS KIDS Sprout, TV One, Comcast SportsNet and Comcast Interactive Media,
which develops and operates Comcast's Internet business. Comcast also has a
majority ownership in Comcast-Spectacor, whose major holdings include the
Philadelphia Flyers NHL hockey team, the Philadelphia 76ers NBA basketball
team and two large multipurpose arenas in Philadelphia.
SOURCE Comcast Corporation
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pog
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Kihei, HI | RIAA/MPAA wet dream... In order to qualify for the $195,000, subscribers will have to go on record as to what files they were sharing, etc. Then, they hand those big $$ directly over to the RIAA/MPAA.
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hhawkman
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| Re: RIAA/MPAA wet dream... said by pog :In order to qualify for the $195,000, subscribers will have to go on record as to what files they were sharing, etc. Then, they hand those big $$ directly over to the RIAA/MPAA. Interesting take, but don't get confused. No one is giving the subsciber anything. They want the FCC to FINE them at $195K/subscriber. The subscriber gets nada. | |
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Technogeez
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join:2007-01-20 | oversubscription That's what happens on shared network segments. I wonder what their ratio is...anyone?
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comcastguy76
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| It's somehwat true Comcast Rick:
They don't technically block the applications they hinder the use so that they become unusable. Example: I was downloading a torrent a week ago and the file size was 12 MB. The file took hours to download. I look in the progress area and it tells me I've downloaded 27 MB. While the speed change form months ago is totally drastic. You're obviously a fanboy. It's quite similar to identity theft. Plus stories from various new outlets prove that they are doing this. | |
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comcastguy76
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| Re: It's somehwat true Also to me it doesn't make sense why they call it network management. The data is still being sent and received. It's just not going to who originally sent for it. So the same bandwidth usage is there. Sorry for typos in original having keyboard problems. | |
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FifthE1ement
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
| Sue Comcast! Not for money but for promise of changes! Comcast needs to be stopped. This effects all future net innovations by what they are doing today. Imagine if two guys are sitting at home and are creating "something hot & new" for the future and they try to perform for network tests and are unable to do so. Perhaps they will change what they are doing or stop altogether. Net neutrality is a big issue as no one should be able to view and/or edit the content of what we send over the web. I think that perhaps the government should have access if they obtain a warrant similar to phones, homes, etc... Otherwise what you do on the net is up to you. Comcast can always set a limit on the bandwidth and then make people pay more for having more but blocking or especially identifying themselves as one of their subscribers is not only unethical, but immoral. They will get theirs someday; trust me, maybe not today or tomorrow but someday...
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Bellundo
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| Re: Sue Comcast! Not for money but for promise of changes! Read about Rogers cable internet up in Canada. Comcast would be shut down entirely if they were even one tenth as bad as Rogers. What rogers doesn't realize is broadband was meant to be more than just being able to visit a few web site that aren't blocked and using email that is supposed to work. P2P, newsgroups and the like are just distance memories. I should mention prices increases at least a couple times a year and now they dropped how much you can download and charge you a king's ransom for downloading quote "too much". | |
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Bellundo
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| You'd have to read the Rogers forum to believe it! Being an America you'd have to read the rogers forum up in Canada to believe it. For an America they'd have to read the forum a few times and shake their head and rethink yes i'm actually reading what i actually see then shake their head again. It could never ever get this bad in America but this is as bad as it can get in the rest of the world.
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