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Comments on news posted 2007-11-04 11:30:08: Japan is one of the countries that eyes often turn to when considering the future trends of technology. What people are finding when they look to the country today is that there is a trend towards decreased interest in PCs. ..

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gaforces
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There still using the pc, its just a lot smaller, and called a PDA or a smartphone.


ftthz
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could be a trend in areas will good celluar networks

would need a better cell phone network before this would happen in other parts of the world


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 Oh nice!!

So, that means the Japanese now can use their mobile gadgets to code in Pearl, prepare their balance sheet, play Crysis, and download stuff on P2P?? Truly amazing...


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16 months isn't that long...

4 Quarters are really not that long. In the past, we have seen a huge spurt of PC growth as more people got computers, or upgraded really old ones.

PC's are at the point now, where a majority of them will serve the normal user for years. If you just do E-mail / Office Work / basic Video Conference, you do not need a new computer ever 1 year 4 months.

PC sales has always been on a cycle. The PC Speeds are increasing, but not at a pace that makes the home user "need" to keep up.

Mobile devices will continue to grow, but home PC's will contue to sell. Majority will most likely be laptops / game systems as the PC Home Appliance movement continues.
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 U.S. starting to see trend as well

PC functionality is being absorbed by game consoles and home media centers for in home use and for video, music, and game playing on the internet that need big screen monitors.

And on the road, laptops are being replaced by smart phones; iPod Touch like devices; and other small multi-media devices with small screens.

While it may take a decade or more, the traditional desktop and laptop personal computer with a "do every type of application" functionality is being replaced by more function specific devices.
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The people who are buying computers for the wrong reasons will be served by newer, cheaper, channel specific products. That's it.

A PC is a general purpose computing machine.


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I don't know if anyone remembers the movie, "Lost in space" maybe this quote will jog your memory back, "Danger Will Robinson, Danger!

But sonys new bendable tv that it showed off some time ago reminded me of that video diary that "Penny" had in the movie.

»youtube.com/watch?v=k6bkmPjVF-k


Things will probably be something like that in the future and not a "big clunky computer on your desk or lap"
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Will we find other ways to watch television?

I certainly hope so, because I detest watching TV or movies on my PC.


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Just Wait....

...until all those who are enamored of their tiny devices start hitting their forties, and their eyes start to change. When they realize they can't see those tiny images anymore, they'll be heading back to the wide screen computers in droves. LOL!
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Re: U.S. starting to see trend as well

I would still consider all those things a PC.
It's true that the desktop computer is much less popular now. Most people I know that arent gamers, use a laptop now, and even some gamers use a laptop sometimes.

In 1999 I was at the comdex keynote speech for Bill Gates. What I remember was him saying that the desktop was going away and we would use much smaller specialized devices.

They summarized the speech, its not exactly what he said there ... »www.microsoft.com/misc/features/···illg.htm
Its pretty close to what he predicted, but not exactly.
Theres still a market for the desktop machines in that any real work that is done in industry, web, graphics, servers, HTPC's, etc

I like having a large widescreen and a real keyboard/mouse.
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i am not going to quint and push the rest of the family to teh side so i cna use the family tv to reply to dslreports and reply to emails.
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Limits?

Perhaps it is because the average person has reached a level in processing speed with their home PCs that it doesn't make sense to go buy a new one like was the norm for so many years.

For most people, a PC can now last a lot longer than it did a decade ago because of the power that these computers now contain.

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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: U.S. starting to see trend as well

We are seeing the fulfillment of the old Sun mantra "the network is the computer."

PCs started out as standalone computing devices. The proliferation of low cost wired and wireless networking has changed the balance where now PCs are often used as glorified terminals accessing remote data.

Usage and packaging will continue to evolve. As others have mentioned the PC is a fantastic general purpose computer. There are many other uses that do not require general purpose and function better as a purpose built device.

I think decline in PC market growth has less to do with it being eclipsed by other devices then market saturation in industrialized countries. Our home is networked and we have one (at least) PC per person with another dedicated as a server. It will be quite a while before we need to purchase another one.

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Cell? PDA?

No, I just don't see it.
Screens are just too small. People everywhere are still wanting video/websurfing/pr0n/etc...
Staring at a 2" or 3" screen aint going to cut it.

Example:
Pick a site online, try and look at it on a PDA or cell screen.
it's either cut off and scrolling is involved, or it has been "converted" to fit the puny screen you're using.

Screen resolution just aint happening either.
Video(other than Youtube) on something like an iPhone or a PSP is bearable, but it still sucks!

You can only shrink some things so far before they get too small.

Cell phones were getting pretty freakin small, but people started wanting to view images and video - guess what!
They started getting bigger to accommodate the larger screen.
Still aint something *I* would want to stare at for 10/30/60/120 minutes.

Ultra-portable computers(Sony VAIO UX Series) have a 4.5" screen... and that's even kinda small!
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Larry Roberts says...

"[the Internet] isn’t designed for watching television."

Right. It was designed for the delivery and exchange of text documents. That's all we still use it for now, right?

Change happens.


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reply to gaforces
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From the consumer side, I could maybe see where the prediction is going. But to say 'no PCs' is ridiculous. I didn't RTFA, so unless they've got this qualifier in there already, there will still and always be a large market for developers. No one is going to want to develop sites, applications, and other multimedia on tiny handhelds!

Until VR or holographic interfaces are devised, PCs are not entirely 'going away'.

On the other hand, if a small mobile device can be connected to a KVM, then ok...maybe...but then is that really not a 'PC'? Semantics...?
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A More Fundamental Issue

What sells in Japan may or may not sell in the United States: there are a number of differences between the Japanese and US/Canadian markets.

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Cultural differences

If your apartment was the size of my bathroom and cost 4 times as much you wouldn't want a PC either. You would want something that was almost wearable and entirely portable because you would not want to stay in your apartment at all.

So for the mobile nation that is Japan the PDA/Smart phone makes a lot of sense.


TMMerlin
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The laptop will "dominate for years"

My laptop is essential to me ! It only cost $1,200 and is a Del B130 that is maxed out. What a bargin to do all my computing requirements....The PDA and smart phone are no where near as flexible as my laptop. Best yet ..I don't have to "sync" my laptop with systems at work because it is already in sync !
- I don't squander my time and money on cellphone junk
- I watch TV on my Samsung 42" HD LCD TV
- I listen to "real" music on my 20 year old stereo system
- I get marvelous pictures on my 7-megapixel camera

I can also put this all on my Laptop, too ..!
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tschmidt
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Re: Cell? PDA?

agree - until bionic implants become common finger size and eyeballs (especially old eyeballs) limit useful device size.

/tom
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