 estover
join:2004-03-16
Valencia, PA
clubs:
| Whats old is new again! I remember when VeriSign made this kind of change in the root. The flood of posts from NANOG was more than my mail server could handle.  It did the exact same thing. Took misspelled requests and sent the user to a "site finder" page.
To the people that are saying that this is no big deal, the web is a whole lot more than www.yourthinghere.com. One big problem is that it makes most SPAM filters fail. One of the checks it does is to see if the senders domain really exists. If the bad domain is redirected to an IP of any sort, it looks like the sender is OK. For a company with 30 users that have been around for a while, the increase of SPAM not being blocked via this check can be in the thousands per day.
And that is just one thing that failed redirects can break.
Another is site/server monitoring. Unless you put it IP address of the site server the failed site redirect will appear to the monitoring software the the site is up.
I have over 35 servers I monitor for availability, this includes DNS settings/monitoring. Now if the DNS server I use will redirect a failed lookup to a functional IP, it will not alert me to a down server.
Site Finder kind of stuff is OK for the average user, but remember the Web is not only used by 400 pound people with fat fingers looking for porn.
If they are going to break something that doesn't need fixing make it opt-in.
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Jodokast96
R.I.P Bassman442
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Erial, NJ | Re: Whats old is new again! Someone who actually makes a sane and informative argument against this. Thank you and well done. This is a legitimate issue that they should address. | |
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clubs: | Re: Whats old is new again! Thanks for the thumb. | |
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justin
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1 edit |  The opt-out is a pain
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This is a simple play by verizon to get a monetized search box up in front of users before google does. They are being dishonest in marketing the change as something "helpful" to users. It might be helpful for some users, it might not, but to say that is the REASON they made the change is pure 100% unadulterated corporate dishonesty. | |
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altermatt
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join:2004-01-22
White Plains, NY
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| Open DNS Very easy even for those who don't usually like fooling with such things  ...faster and safer:
www.opendns.com
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The truth of a thing is the feel of it, not the think of it. -- Stanley Kubrick | |
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Mary Esther, FL | Re: Open DNS They do the same thing, too.
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Endolith
@verizon.net | I saw that and tried it, but they do exactly the same thing. How do I get Google's "Browse by Name" back? | |
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Endolith
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| Re: Open DNS I figured this out. Just use 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2, etc. as your nameservers. Apparently these are also Verizon, but can be used by anyone, are faster, and give the proper error message? that initiates Google's Browse by Name. So now I can type "something" in the address bar and get a Google search for the word "something", while typing "something awful" in the address bar goes directly to somethingawful.com It does its best to go directly to what I was looking for. | |
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GeekGirl1
The Medium IS the Message
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join:2007-01-28
Morrisville, PA
2 edits | Has anyone tried the opt-out "fix"? Has anyone in the Philly area done the opt-out? I'm having problems getting it to work. The last byte in the DNS servers is set to 12, but I still get the ad page.
Thread started: »Since when did Verizon start Advertising on busted URLs?
Update: It's fixed. My bad. The last byte should have been set to 14. However, you have to install the update to the correct network connection. In my case, it was to Broadband (Coax), not the Network (Home / Office) as stated in the Verizon instructions. See the thread for info (thanks to noping). | |
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GeekGirl1
The Medium IS the Message
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Morrisville, PA
1 edit | Re: Has anyone tried the opt-out "fix"? (duplicate post, sorry) | |
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Endolith
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| How do I fix this? I used to be able to type words into my Firefox address bar and it would often go directly to the site I want through Google's "Browse by Name" feature, and give me Google results the rest of the time. Now I see a Verizon search result. How do I get back Google's result? | |
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pende_tim
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join:2004-01-04
Andover, NJ | Re: How do I fix this? Yes, How do you enable that? I do seem to recall this working a while ago but have not see it recently now that you mention it.
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jbeez
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| FYI If you run your own DNS server, like I do, you're unaffected. I noticed this behavior recently on my verizon dsl when I had temporarily used my Westell router while doing maintenance on my firewall and I was sure glad to get my firewall back in there. Running pf+altq w/ bind for dns. I have a normal westell modem and a westell wireless router that I use for a backup.
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