Elite
join:2002-10-03
Orange, CT | Honestly
How the hell do you let this happen FOUR times in TWO years. That's an average of being broken into every SIX MONTHS.
I'm surprised they're still in business.
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exocet_cm
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| said by Elite  :How the hell do you let this happen FOUR times in TWO years. That's an average of being broken into every SIX MONTHS. I'm surprised they're still in business. I'm surprised as well. I bet there is always room though to rent on their racks!
You would think, because of the nature of their business, that one wouldn't be able to just cut through some walls with a saw. Do like the jails do with multiple walls. Hell, reinforce the walls with steel rods or something.
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TOPDAWG
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join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON | Kind of funny.
Kind of funny being as the company says the place has good security. However not funny the poor guy got beat up.
If a place gets robbed they better change fast cause word will get around what places are easy marks to other thief's. |
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
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Grove City, PA | Geeks with power tools
"Screw this, I'll host my website on my own!" |
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ptrowski
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| reply to TOPDAWG
Re: Kind of funny.
said by TOPDAWG :If a place gets robbed they better change fast cause word will get around what places are easy marks to other thief's. Four times in 2 years would suggest that word has been on the streets for a while.
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kapil
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join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| LOL
...I've been a long time customer. As they say, you get what you pay for. Service is VERY cheap...but I count on 4 major outages a year.
Customer support is non-existent. Good luck trying to get a hold of someone who knows what the hell is going on.
Their shared hosting and dedicated server customers fare much worse...colo customers are treated a lot better. I've always done fine by befriending the local data center guys.
If my business depended on my servers, they wouldn't go to CI Host. But, for the price, it's one hell of a deal, even with all the crap that happens.
Who got tazered?...I know most of the guys over there. ...and now I know why my rack was REALLY down for a day and a half.
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Tzale
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| Robbery
This is simply unacceptable for a co-location center to just be able to be broken into 4 times. What is even worse is that the walls were just cut down with a saw and the manager was tasered and beat! WTF?!?! Don't they have some kind of security guards or dogs or something?
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espaeth
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| Inside Job
The walls weren't reinforced; in fact, the wall section that was broken down was known to be a structural weak point. All of the video surveillance was also stolen from the premises. The police strongly believe this was an inside job due to all of factors in the case.
There's currently a group of folks affected by this event putting together a lawsuit against CI Host for gross negligence, supported by the numerous thefts from the facility.
For those in doubt, copies of the police reports are here:
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to exocet_cm
Re: Honestly
Any bets that the people that broken in have an inside knowledge (former employees or contractors).
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TOPDAWG
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Midland, ON
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| reply to ptrowski
Re: Kind of funny.
Yep the first time a place is robbed they need to change fast. I'd go for the old big ass watch dog walking around the place myself.
Just have a night worker let the dog out to piss and shit and you're good to go. If no night workers make a dogie door. |
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TheMadSwede
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join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI | Night Manager Declined to Comment
The night manager declined to comment other than saying, "Don't tase me, bro".
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | They been watching to much csi lol. |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA |  Nothing funny about being robbed
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mr419
@cox.net
| inside job?
saw this problem in various Motorola radio rooms I visited to service. nobody watches service folks who when in need of parts for repair "borrow" same from someone else's equipment. not unusual in 2 way radio service business. PD could probably get list of customers and with a few interviews track down who has recently installed "new" servers. |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA
| Can't spin CI Host's bad security
Honestly, I'm not sure which is the best scenario for CI Host:
1. They're just that bad a hosting company that they get broken into once every six months.
2. They have employees that steal servers/data once every six months and somehow continue on working there.
3. They have employees that steal servers/data, get fired, and are replaced with other employees who steal servers/data.
No matter which way they try to spin it, they're an incompetent (possibly criminally negligent) hosting company and I wouldn't host my data with them if they gave me the space for free. |
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wifi4milez
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| Alarms?
They mention that they have alarm systems linked to the police and fire department. I have to wonder how "good" these systems are if they werent set off by people cutting a hole in the building with a power saw!!! Its terrible that the guy got beat up, but after the first robbery they should have immediately instituted some serious security upgrades.
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Bobcat
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join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
1 edit | reply to kapil
Re: LOL
Doesn't look terribly cheap to me. I pay more, but our web host is up all the time. Downtime is maybe a few minutes per year. |
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kcblack
Premium
join:2000-09-11
Chicago, IL | reply to wifi4milez
Re: Alarms?
If you read the police reports, the real crime was them saying that an "external dvd writer" was worth $200.
Can you say "insurance fraud"?
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AnonProxy
Proxy of Anon
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join:2001-05-12
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| Ohhh to be so foolish....
Since we don't know what model, since we don't know, the capacity, since we don't know any of that, neither you nor I are in a position to call "fraud" on anything. Not everyone buys the cheapest dvd burner out there and buys the cheapest housing. Just because in a police report it says DVD burner does not mean that it is a "single" driver burner and not duplicator. What if it was a blue ray drive that was depreciated? What if it was a slim line portable USB DVD burner from Targus? The Targus PADVW010U street price as a slow DVD burner is somewhere north of $230.... |
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redleaf
join:2000-09-12
1 edit | Wow, who knew CIHOST was still around?
I had two domains hosted by them from 98-99. They were pretty bad back then (errors in setting up my account, overloaded servers, and then constant billing errors). I switched to Pair for a few years and now I'm on Dreamhost. No complaints with either.
I found this spam email from 2000 that details their problems back then:
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 00:58:59 -0500
To: xx@xx.xxx
From:
Subject: RE: When CI Host told you that they were making headlines...
I want nothing to do with you, and here's why -
I would never deal with a company that uses the denegration of its competitors as its ONLY reason to use its services. You don't say dick about your company in this - at least nothing interesting.
I would never deal with a company that CUTS AND PASTES copyright material for its own ads
I would never deal with a company that USES HUGE TYPE
I would never deal with a company that SPAMS! You spammed! What sort of company IS this?
I would never deal with a company that requires me to REMOVE myself from a list I never asked to join in the first place
I would NEVER EVER deal with a company that relies on FALSE news reports. Ten seconds of research would have SHOWN YOU that the credit card files obtained by hackers were from FAILED CREDIT fraud. They were ALREADY bad numbers - they were USELESS.
Here are things I WILL be doing with your message: sending a copy to HostIndex, the Web Hosting Guild, CNet, and of course, CI Host.
Do not - EVER - send me another e-mail message about your company. It is not possible for me to be LESS interested.
-----Original Message-----
From: Free Web Hosting [mailto:freeweb@mail.exordior.com]
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 8:51 PM
To: cihost3@exordior.com; cihost4@exordior.com; cihost5@exordior.com; cihost6@exordior.com
Subject: When CI Host told you that they were making headlines...
When CI Host told you that they were making headlines, is this the kind of press that you thought they were generating?
Business disappears as servers crash
CIHost goes down, small e-commerce sites assess damage: When service is down, you just don t exist
By Bob Sullivan MSNBC
Jan. 4 - Lisa Sievers had finally gotten that big break. After months of desperately seeking attention for her fledgling e-commerce Web site, coolballs.com, she had hit the jackpot. Her site, where Sievers sells automobile antenna balls, was featured in a front-page story in the local daily newspaper on Dec. 28. Then, disaster followed. Her Web page went down, and stayed down. Sievers wasn t alone all 48,000 sites hosted by Texas-based CIHost disappeared that day, and many are still either inaccessible or in a state of disrepair.
»www.msnbc.com/news/353491.asp FULL STORY
CIHost exposes credit card numbers
Accounting database of Web hosting service was viewable right on the Net no password required
By Bob Sullivan MSNBC
Jan. 20 Even professional Web hosting companies can make major mistakes when it comes to credit card security. CIHost, which houses around 50,000 home pages, including thousands of small businesses, recently left hundreds of customer credit card numbers in plain view on the Internet. MSNBC on Thursday was able to view CIHost customer information, and even utilize an internal search tool to find specific customers. The Web site containing all this critical information was hardly disguised at all it was accounting.CIHost.com.
»www.msnbc.com/news/360102.asp FULL STORY
CIHost Support Site Falls to Hackers
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