John Galt
Forward, March
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join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
 ·CenturyLink
| Say...
Isn't the world supposed to end on Sunday, December 23, 2012...?
»www.greatdreams.com/end-world.htm
Sounds like they will only have to make half a dozen phones or so.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| Actual Throughput?
I wonder what the latency and actual throughput numbers will look like with an overloaded cell tower and protocol overhead?
Regardless, this could be interesting as I'd like to take a reasonably middle-ground latency, high bandwidth connection with me on the go.
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
| if you believe that, I got a bridge to sell ya
we're not going to have wired 100Mbps by 2010, much less wireless.
even if these speeds are offered, we're talking ATT and Verizon here - it will probably be capped and one can only access telco offered content at the full speed. What do they expect people to do with these speeds with the restrictions they will likely require?
I'm not even going to speculate on price. |
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BabyBear
Keep wise ...with Night-Owl
join:2007-01-11
| You forgot to add 100Mbps BPL to that too. 
And something about a Space Odyssey too! 
"You've gone over your cap, dave!" |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA | Unlimited flat rates
With speed growing towards 100Mbps do people really think that unlimited flat rate is a business reality? |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to nasadude
Re: if you believe that, I got a bridge to sell ya
said by nasadude  :we're not going to have wired 100Mbps by 2010, much less wireless. even if these speeds are offered, we're talking ATT and Verizon here - it will probably be capped and one can only access telco offered content at the full speed. What do they expect people to do with these speeds with the restrictions they will likely require? I'm not even going to speculate on price. I will bet you $1000 (check back to this post in 2010) that Verizon FIOS will offer 100Megabit package at a decent price by the end of 2010.
However, since we both live in MD, they will still be lagging with Verizon's discriminative deployment.
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq | And verizon will sell it as 'unlimited'
Well, as long as you don't use more than 5GB/month |
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Edward1978
join:2007-07-23
De Soto, IL | Will it be here?
In Extrreme Southern Illiniose, the few very botton counties are still dial-up. I always thought the world would end before real broadband got down to "them parts" |
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kaila
join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL
clubs:  | Not sure where it will end up, but where I live in the middle of Chicago suburbia, 2012 is the year AT&T says we should finally get DSL. Go figure.... |
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ShadezeRO
join:2006-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL | reply to karlmarx
Re: And verizon will sell it as 'unlimited'
Hmm, and Comcast might put some Throttling on that as well
..I mean, they might just want to manage the network a little better. |
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Coopdog
@bell.ca | What is the point?
I am not sure what it is like in the States but here in Canada it cost 25 bucks for 4 megs on my treo 700wx with telus mobility, 100 Mbps would let me reach that in record time. |
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Demonic Llama
@dsl.net
| reply to Vamp
Re: if you believe that, I got a bridge to sell ya
The problem in Maryland isnt that Verizon doesnt want to deploy the system, its that the state wants a 5% sales tax added to all the fios/dsl hubs from verizon and they screw that. Main pressure is coming from Comcast lobbyists here in Montgomery county where Comcast is king with the county. |
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bassnguitar
join:2003-09-11
Imperial, MO
clubs: | reply to kaila
Re: Will it be here?
At the very least, at&t is giving you a date. My dates from charter and at&t is maybe, sometime, we don't know, maybe never etc.... BTW I'm not that far off the grid from either. |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to Matt
Re: Actual Throughput?
The challenge will be providing enough backhaul to every site to supply that much to each user. Is a major challenge already with EVDO/HSDPA to just get 2-3Mbps.
BTW, WiMAX 802.16m is spec'd to go to 1Gbps but we'll probably never see it. Sprint actually has enough spectrum to do 1Gbps. Might be used for backhaul.
»www.dailywireless.org/2007/02/20···00-mbps/
WiMAX is way ahead of LTE. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| True... while WiMAX is way ahead of LTE and UMB, WiMAX is still a relatively new product out there, and isn't compatible with anything else.
I suspect the GSMA will ensure that LTE is backward compatible with UMTS/HSDPA/GSM networks which already have +2.5 billion subs.
Similarly, CDMA has +375 million subs in multiple countries. UMB would most likely fail back to CDMA 1x/EVDO networks.
WiMAX would fail back to ?? WiFi?
WiMAX needs to deploy lots of gear globally with lots of retail equipment.
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personalwimaxx
@ivytech.edu
| Proxim?
I see the stuff by proxim on their site for Wi-max is any of this stuff real true Wi-max... Like if I were to set up a Tsunami MP.11 Model 5054-R Base Station Unit how far could i expect to get away from the base station and for it to work? Price is hefty too will we see it drop...
If it drops to a reasonable 500-800 dollars I could see spending for it as long as it does truely put out decent range...
And what other brands of Wi-max are out there. I don't really want to pay a subscription (i.e. sprint) if i can pay for it and set it up... lol will Wi-max get to that point of Wi-fi? |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to en102
Re: Actual Throughput?
I'm not certain but I don't think LTE itself will technically be backward compatible to HSPA, but it is likely that an LTE device will include an HSPA radio as well.
WiMAX radios will likely include a WiFi radio in most cases. And is some cases, some of Sprint's WiMAX devices will have EVDO, like combo laptop cards.
But as we've discussed, LTE devices will likely be limited to cellphones and laptop cards and devices controlled by LTE carriers. WiMAX devices are specifically targeting consumer electronics devices, uncontrolled by carriers, so has a chance of much broader penetration. In terms of getting the consumer electronics industry on board, WiMAX is way ahead and will have product out next year. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to Vamp
Re: if you believe that, I got a bridge to sell ya
said by Vamp :said by nasadude :we're not going to have wired 100Mbps by 2010, much less wireless. even if these speeds are offered, we're talking ATT and Verizon here - it will probably be capped and one can only access telco offered content at the full speed. What do they expect people to do with these speeds with the restrictions they will likely require? I'm not even going to speculate on price. However, since we both live in MD, they will still be lagging with Verizon's discriminative deployment. discriminative deployment is better than no deployment[what qwest areas are getting]
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matrix3D
join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT | reply to John Galt
Re: Say...
Yeah, and according to Terminator 2 the world should've ended in August of 1997. |
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IXI DUKE XIX
@att.net | dailup!
I think the whole Idea of long range dial up modems |
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