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2 edits | Let's call a spade a spade here
The pre-emptive actions of so called network traffic shaping as executed by the various offending providers in the headlines can hardly be considered merely just an "infraction." More like censorship, throttling and blocking which is part and parcel of the need for NN law in the first place. Let's not gloss over/sugar coat the matter for fear of offending any telco/cable dittoheads. |
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TKJunkMail
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|  NNSoreheads - Network Neutrality Soreheads
They need a different name. The NNSquad needs to be renamed to the NNSoreheads - a group of people who want to use the Network Neutrality issues to re-institute regulatory regimes that have been dismantled over the last 10 years and that they sorely miss. In other words, they want big government to replace big business and bring back the good old days - at least what they consider to be the good old days.
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SilverSurfer
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Let's not offend any dittoheads
said by TKJunkMail  :They need a different name. The NNSquad needs to be renamed to the NN Soreheads - a group of people who want to use the Network Neutrality issues to re-institute regulatory regimes that have been dismantled over the last 10 years and that they sorely miss. In other words, they want big government to replace big business and bring back the good old days - at least what they consider to be the good old days. ...case in point. |
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Re: NNSoreheads - Network Neutrality Soreheads
does this job pay well???? |
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pnh102
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said by TKJunkMail :They need a different name. The Justice Friends?
The International Justice League of Super Acquaintances?
Captain Planet and the Planeteers?
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You are so correct! Ghod forbid that anyone would have the temerity to stand up for the users, who simply shovel great gouts of money at the providers!
If you excuse me, it is time for me to go pray at my altar to Corporations and their executives, who all enjoy Divine Infallibility. |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by TScheisskopf :If you excuse me, it is time for me to go pray at my altar to Corporations and their executives, who all enjoy Divine Infallibility. Don't forget to leave your donation!!  
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openbox9
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Re: Let's call a spade a spade here
said by SilverSurfer :The pre-emptive actions of so called network traffic shaping as executed by the various offending providers in the headlines can hardly be considered merely just an "infraction." You're right. I wouldn't even call it an infraction. |
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backness
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Re: NNSoreheads - Network Neutrality Soreheads
you are a silly, silly man...
I would like to see the day that Comcast opens up their version of DSLR and you can't access the real thing anymore because Comcast believes that you should be on their site. And since you'll be on their network you'll have no recourse. |
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openbox9
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| said by backness :I would like to see the day that Comcast opens up their version of DSLR and you can't access the real thing anymore because Comcast believes that you should be on their site. So would I...because I don't believe it will happen. |
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WaxPhoto
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S_engineer
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Re: Let's call a spade a spade here
But he is right about calling a spade a spade. Like it of not, the Internet is not just a privilege or luxury anymore, it never really has been. It is woven throughout our very existence; throughout all forms of government to banking to commerce. This makes it a utility!
Once you grasp that concept, then you should be able understand the need for regulatory panels from the federal level to the PUC level.
You don't see electric companies cherry picking which neighborhoods they want to serve, why is this tolerated at the telecommunication level?
Now lets see the angry backlash...
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nasadude
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said by openbox9 :You're right. I wouldn't even call it an infraction. that's because you subscribe to the "if an incumbent telco does it, it can't be wrong" school of thought. so of course you wouldn't consider any of those things infractions. |
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nasadude
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Re: NNSoreheads - Network Neutrality Soreheads
said by openbox9 :So would I...because I don't believe it will happen. why would you like to see it happen?
backness wants to see it happen so the lack of an open network will be obvious even to someone who doesn't think incumbent telcos can do anything wrong. |
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openbox9
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| said by nasadude :said by openbox9 :So would I...because I don't believe it will happen. why would you like to see it happen? Because I don't believe that it will happen. Do you realize how quickly Comcast would fall on its knees? Say what you will about "megacorp" management teams, but Comcast's management would have to want to be fired to retry AOL. |
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gaforces
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1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail :They need a different name. The NNSquad needs to be renamed to the NN Soreheads - a group of people who want to use the Network Neutrality issues to re-institute regulatory regimes that have been dismantled over the last 10 years and that they sorely miss. In other words, they want big government to replace big business and bring back the good old days - at least what they consider to be the good old days. What regulatory regimes and how do ye know they miss them?
And whats so good about them?
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openbox9
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Alexandria, VA | reply to nasadude
Re: Let's call a spade a spade here
I don't subscribe to the "if an incumbent telco does it, it can't be wrong" philosophy, but I do subscribe to the belief that managing finite resources is a must for maintaining enjoyment of the finite resource. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
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said by S_engineer :But he is right about calling a spade a spade. Like it of not, the Internet is not just a privilege or luxury anymore, it never really has been. Wow, and to think that society has managed to survive so long without the Internet. Add on the numerous people that I know that live without this integral "utility" and I'm simply amazed. Seriously, until the Internet becomes a necessity to sustain life, I have a hard time getting on the regulation bandwagon.said by S_engineer :Now lets see the angry backlash... No anger, just adult conversation and display of personal opinion. |
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Yauch
join:2005-06-24
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said by 82.7% of the DSLR readers :
But like I read in a forum somewhere they they can just like flip a switch and stuff. The resources aren't finite cause if they wanted bandwidth more they could just liek do it.
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