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Comments on news posted 2007-11-08 13:54:23: AT&T is the first ISP we've seen that wants to voluntarily put mechanisms in place that will filter pirated material from the company's network. ..

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MarkyD
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This is one of the many reasons

I'll likely never go back to AT&T.
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Oleg
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Re: AT&T Piracy Filters Tread Dangerous Ground

Wonder if costumer will have an option allow or block


S_engineer

join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
reply to MarkyD
Re: This is one of the many reasons

In the very near future, it might be your only choice.
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en102
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reply to MarkyD
Yup... Big brother is ruining the Internet.

On one side: Comcast
High(er) speeds, high(er) prices, Sandvine, caps

On the other side: AT&T
Low(er) speeds, low(er) prices, NSA/Hollywood sniffing alliance, Microsoft IPTV (I wonder if the STB's track TV watching through Cookies).

Almost makes me think of AOL. Here's the Internet that we think you want to see/view. Anything else is deemed bad/illegal.
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ATHF

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Some one forgot the NSA

»/r0/download/1···bile.jpg

needs to edited where the NSA servers


N3OGH
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reply to MarkyD
Re: This is one of the many reasons

The death star strikes again...


jjoshua
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Scotch Plains, NJ
AT&T != ISP

AT&T should no longer be considered an ISP or be able to advertise "internet" access if they filter content.


S_engineer

join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast

reply to en102
Re: This is one of the many reasons

said by en102 See Profile :

Almost makes me think of AOL. Here's the Internet that we think you want to see/view. Anything else is deemed bad/illegal.
Great analogy. Take it one step further once the practice is established. The ISPs extort money from smaller web apps to be "verified" through their filter system.

Do you still think broadband is a privalege, and if so, are you happy with this type of topic?


MrMoody
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reply to en102
said by en102 See Profile :

Yup... Big brother is ruining the Internet.

Microsoft IPTV (I wonder if the STB's track TV watching
I'd bet the farm on that one, they have an open two-way connection, they're going to use it.
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"It is a future in which globalization really does work ... and everybody winds up getting to be part of the third world." - William Gibson


DHRacer
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join:2000-10-10
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Not of this country

Welcome to China!

ISPs should be pipe providers only, plain and simple. Irrespective of the content that passes through them.


danclan

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Before everyone gets their boxers in a bunch

none of the companies have ever established that their products work...work on encrypted packets...work on ascii converted data etc....until someone can demonstrate that stuff can actually determine that the contents of say a p2p encrypted packet are of copy writed content ....i think you can relax

from their web site it appears to be more aligned with stopping youtube type uploads etc...

i could be talking out my butt here....


en102
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reply to MrMoody
Re: This is one of the many reasons

That's how the wireless version works.... no streaming unless its provided by our content providers (i.e. companies that pay us money ... and we charge money from customers as well as ad providers).
Money from every direction. Anything that doesn't pay or become 'approved' is deemed to be pirate and violates TOS.
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grandpinaple

join:2006-01-03
New York, NY

Conflict of interest

Isn't it in some way illegal for AT&T to degrade internet service to promote their own television service. I mean regardless of whether the content is pirated or not, the removal of pirated content from a network that was built on the backs of tax payers should be left to proper legal process. I know I'll get a bunch of responses that say, "It's their network," but it's really not. Tax subsidies and monthly bills pay their network bills so technically it's our network. Not to mention the fact that they were a government sanctioned monopoly for the better part of their days. AT&T should be broken up into HSI and television sellers... I think when people start to realize that it is actually our network and that it will be very difficult to build another one (again on our backs) they will understand how critical it is to oppose AT&T. This really makes me angry because while the world moves into the direction of eliminating middle men like the RIAA and MPAA AT&T takes a step backwards. What they are doing is simply illegal.

grandpinaple

join:2006-01-03
New York, NY

reply to danclan
Re: Before everyone gets their boxers in a bunch

They'll just ban encryption on their network or degrade it... If they can find a way to identify pirated content getting around pesky checks and balances like encryption, vpn ssh, etc is a walk in the park./tin foil hat off. Take this at least partially seriously.

averagedude

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Mesa, AZ
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reply to danclan
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Privacy - that was so 19th century......

Using encrypted technologies is a dead give away that you are doing something illegal.
They will simply block all encrypted data.
If you don't have anything to hide...so why are you using encrytion?
Soon the only way to surf the net will be totally naked with a blind fold.

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ninjatutle
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Oh noes

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Hmmm they are stopping illegal activity. Whats the problem again?

Oh yeah, there's a bunch of whiny, warez, illegal movie downloaders here.


en102
Canadian, eh?

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Valencia, CA
reply to averagedude
Re: Before everyone gets their boxers in a bunch

Yeah - I'll just put my SSN, and bank account info into a non SSL / HTTPS bank web site.
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morbo
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reply to jjoshua
Re: AT&T != ISP

but think of the profit!

mjwise

join:2007-05-09
Ann Arbor, MI
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So....yeah...

the whole marketing it as stopping child pornography thing? How the heck would that even work? Wouldn't they actually have to have a collection (!) of it to match stuff flowing through their network against? Would they have to have people actively try to collect it? Doesn't that seem like a really bad idea?


Supafly
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Elk Grove, CA
Arabic?

Why is there Arabic writing in the article header image?
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