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The movie and recording industry has to pay for everyone's movie/music subscriptions.
I support their right to protect their intellectual property, but it cannot in any way jeopardize something as vastly more important as financial aid to students.
So free music and flicks for all college students... Like that'll happen.. 
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  DotMac4 Shill H8r Premium join:2007-10-26 Huntington Beach, CA
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Bitchen...so taxpayer money would be going to support the RIAA. So this is just more proof that bribing politicians works. You give Congressional whores enough money, you get your favors done in record time.
What's next? Colleges lose financial aid if they don't buy breathalyzers for every student's car? It's not the college's job to pay to stop the criminal actions of others.
Congress has nothing better to do? The budget is balanced, illegal immigration is under control, the war in Iraq over, infrastructure improved, energy policy enacted, environmental concerns addressed, taxes lowered and all the other REAL problems impacting Joe Taxpayer have been solved. Funny, I missed all of these successes in the news.
It's no wonder that Congressional ratings are at record lows (25% »www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm ) , even worse than our retarded President 32% »www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm ) |
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The two Democratic politicians behind Friday's bill are Reps. George Miller from California and Ruben Hinojosa of Texas. Miller is chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee and Hinojosa is chairman of the higher education subcommittee.
They said in a press release that the legislation, called the College Opportunity and Affordability Act, or COAA, will be voted on by the full committee next week.
The peer-to-peer sections of COAA appear to be a revision of an amendment originally proposed over the summer by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to his chamber's sweeping higher education reauthorization bill. My, my! It isn't the evil business loving Republicans behind this. It appears that the Dems are repaying all those big campaign contributions from Hollywood. -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page
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Stupid is the only word here. Come on Democrats, stop wasting your time pandering to the Movie / Music industry and solve the problems this former administration has caused. The economy is screwed. We are in a quagmire war. The President has stripped away our freedoms. Yet, this is somehow important? Got to love politics, someone must have lined their pockets well to make this law a centerpiece focus. |
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said by DotMac4 :Bitchen...so taxpayer money would be going to support the RIAA. So this is just more proof that bribing politicians works. Dam, we needed more proof??? If you find yourself in Oxford, Wisconsin stop in to the Federal Prison and visit our previous governor. Oh that empty bed next to him? That's reserved for our present governor.  |
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said by TKJunkMail :My, my! It isn't the evil business loving Republicans behind this. It appears that the Dems are repaying all those big campaign contributions from Hollywood. Hollywood has (at least recently) supported the democratic party, both with 'hard' money and 'soft' money. They (as I recall and that includes the so called 'stars') were one of the biggest monetary backers of most of the anti-Bush commercials which was legal since the money did NOT go to a political party and as such was not counted. Somewhere there was a site ( www.opensecrets.org ?) that had a breakdown on who paid whom and how for the various political races and it was interesting to see where the money came from and how it differed from the mainstream media just reporting the 'official' amounts.
Someone once said that Hollywood really was not a big business, it just looks like one. It is more of a special interest group that wields a lot of clout because most people pay attention to it and various parts of the industry is always in our face, one way or another.
Not that the various aspects of Hollywood are not above bribing republicans.......... -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. |
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Orwellian, totally f'ng Orwellian.
Like you said, with all the shit going on right now, THIS is what Congress is worried about.
Nero fiddles......Rome burns... -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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join:2002-01-22 00000 clubs: 1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail Re: The legislators behind this proposal
as long as Bush and co. threaten to veto and then actually veteo if this is approved, then i'll agree with you. but if he just goes along with it without fighting, Republicans are complicit and share the blame. |
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1 edit | reply to RayW Sadly, the people in power always get such backing (Democrat or Republican). It's discouraging to say the least, but true. Hollywood isn't going to funnel money to the Republicans, they have no control. Since the Democrats are in charge, their pockets seem to be amply lined in order to pander to such stupidity. As I said before, this country is in a mess, and this is something important to deal with? For pete sakes, I hate politics. |
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Don't fool yourself. Republicans are complicit and share the blame for 95 percent of the mess this country is current in. From the Iraq War, to the Crapped Economy, to the Patriot Act, to the NSA wiretapping. The list goes on. Not to say there weren't some Democratic Support behind such things, but the majority of Nay votes were Democrats. Still, if Bush vetoes this law, I will give the man a bit of credit for SOMETHING POSITIVE. I hope there is a single braincell working in that man's head to know this is a bad law. However, I won't hold out hope, considering his track record. Therefore, my only hope are there are enough Democrats and Republicans in Congress who see this law as being stupid. If not, prepare for the consequences. |
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The Democrats are just as bad for the American people as the Republicans. As a college student, I'm offended at the fact my school will be forced to buy me a Napster subscription. This cost will no doubt be passed on to me, in yet another fee on my already expensive bill.
Consider the fact the RIAA/MPAA has the Democratic party in their back pocket next time you vote. -- The true patriot is motivated by a sense of responsibility, and out of self interest -- for himself, his family, and the future of his country -- to resist government abuse of power. He rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the state. |
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"How much responsibility do colleges have for deterring peer-to-peer piracy on campus?" None whatsoever. A college has two responsibilities: remaining fiscally feasible and providing continuing education to students.
It's very easy for **AA exec's to recommend things that don't cost them money but bring money in - and if this isn't a clear case of an Act that should be shot down I don't know what is.
And colleges will never completely deter P2P. Direct Connect is a favorite among colleges because people within the LAN can create hubs that are accessible to only people on the school LAN. No **AA interference - and if the hub operator is smart enough they can even prevent school administrator's from noticing it (short of the massive intranet usage).
Not many schools come to mind that care about the amount of LAN traffic - only the external traffic is 'metered' so-to-speak. -- Don't Let Them Take Your Rights! |
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| Also, lets please not turn this into Republican vs Democrat. We all know ALL politicians are lying scumbags - this is a bipartisan deal here folks. Republicans, Democrats, Greens, Neoliberals, Libertarians, whatever should all disagree with this act - and if they don't then you can sure bet they've got their hands in someone else's cookie jar. -- Don't Let Them Take Your Rights! |
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How can you put something in the bill that gives free money to an organization for doing nothing?
Who ever put that in the bill just killed it. No one would vote for that. -- »www.ryanoneill.us |
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said by TKJunkMail :My, my! It isn't the evil business loving Republicans behind this. It appears that the Dems are repaying all those big campaign contributions from Hollywood. Heh... I figured as much since the article summary doesn't mention any congressmens' names or party affiliations 
If it were the Republicans backing this bill, it would have been announced in the very first sentence of the summary. -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. |
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said by N3OGH :Orwellian, totally f'ng Orwellian. Like you said, with all the shit going on right now, THIS is what Congress is worried about. Nero fiddles......Rome burns... How's that? If you recieve FEDERAL financial aid do they not have a right to put whatever conditions on that as they choose? You have the right not to accept financial aid from the federal government if you wish to pirate stuff. Don't accept the government cheese then bitch about how it tastes. |
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said by backness :Does it really matter who is responsible for this? or is enough to say its a stupid idea? Yes. If the Republicans were responsible for this, they would be castigated. Since it is the Democrat Party that sponsors this sort of thing, and they are supposedly the "good" party, that makes it OK. -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. |
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| reply to pnh102 Pnh chimes in again. Seems you disappeared from the last conversation.... Anyhow, Article Says Democrats in the first sentence, but your attention to details isn't always top notch. If there are a lot of backers, i highly doubt itd list every one, Republican or Democrat. I'm sure both are behind this one. |
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I guess this will take care of those nasty rumors that the RIAA doesn't own Congress. -- Get Verizon FIOS,The Anti-DIOS |
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