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Comments on news posted 2007-11-14 13:57:39: The cable industry was already convinced that the FCC's Kevin Martin hated their guts. That impression only grew after last week's news that the agency was getting ready to heap a new pile of regulation on the cable industry. ..

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Shamayim
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So, is this good or bad

for cable customers? Inquiring minds want to know.


Dr Demento
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This is nothing new

His love for the phone companies will only hurt them in the long run. When an FCC chairman appointed by another administration moves in and hits them hard.


Thaler
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Hypocrisy in Goverment

This is a totally new find, and utterly groundbreaking to the core - a government official saying one thing, but doing another.

Well, at least candidates hold true to their promises made on the campaign trail. Oh...wait...

rileyjam514
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Seriously?

Are we surprised?

Karl, I gotta say I disagree with you a lot of the time but when it comes to Mr. Martin and the current state of affairs with the FCC, I can't say there's any way to disagree with you.

Frankly, I'll tell you exactly what's happening here:

1) Kevin Martin is preparing himself for a nice cushy job at the end of his term, and the way things are going he's locked in a pretty fat salary and a nice retirement package for himself.

2) Prior to starting as the FCC chair, he most likely approached both sides of the table - the cablecos and the telcos. Here's the deal they probably worked out: promise me everything a man could desire in this world after my term is over and I'll give your company whatever you want as FCC chair. The cablecos probably balked at his offer or felt another candidate for the chairmanship would get the post and backed them instead. Either way, theirs was the wrong answer and he chose the telcos in the end.

3) Probably due to some clandestine method that he used to communicate his offer (unable to prove that he ever said anything) to the cablecos or due to some other major dirt he's got on them (ex.: a la carte is not only feasible, it's available and working in the system that's in place now), the cablecos are unable or unwilling to out him.

4) Media outlets are not concerned with Mr. Martin's activities, not because it is not significant news or because they really like him, but because it is very easy for him to make one phone call and make life difficult for them (cut their broadcasting license based on some out-of-context remark, for example, with plenty of trumped-up demographics to support the charge). Internet broadcasters / bloggers are not taken seriously by Mr. Martin because they cannot impact the average American in nearly as incredible a way as the Big Four broadcast channels can, and because he has no recourse due to the lack of regulation on the internet. Please note that I am not trying to slight internet broadcasters or bloggers with this statement - I am simply pointing out how Martin views this situation.

What do you think?
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hogrunr

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reply to Thaler

Re: Hypocrisy in Goverment

Sounds like Karl is a little bitter...notice he's the mod for the Road Runner forum on here....


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Re: Seriously?

I agree Riley that government agencies are in the pockets of the very industries they are supposed to reform. Just like Congress/Senate members have to wait a few years before becoming lobbyist, rule should change to do something similar for heads of the FCC, SEC, FDA, by keeping them away from the very industry they were just whoring for.


jslik
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Karl nails it

"TV rates have continued to rise with the entry of the baby bells into the market...The promise of lower TV prices is simply used as a PR carrot on a stick (see Bell franchise reform) in order to get baby bell-lobbied laws passed -- with Kevin Martin's help."
Kevin Martin is assured a lucrative position in 2009, so I understand his motivation....but why do so many on this board buy into the Bellspeak?
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dogo88

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Re: Seriously?

Well, here's my take:

In his earlier years, Kevin had cable. Got tired of the rate increases, piss poor service, arrogant and stupid CSRs and decided, like the rest of us who think cable sucks, that when given a chance, stick it to them hard.


Topmounter
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The Feds just need to get out of the way and let MaBell compete with Cable and Satellite.


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Picture

Does his smug picture make anyone else want to punch him in the mouth?
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Ream0

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Re: Karl nails it

It's unusual for Karl to say anything derogatory about Verizon since his admission of accepting BRIBES from the said company!

I think he was accepting fine cheeses and classic automobiles via helicopter drop shipments for the distribution of Verizon propaganda here on BBR!



anon2007

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Re: Hypocrisy in Goverment

said by hogrunr:

Sounds like Karl is a little bitter...notice he's the mod for the Road Runner forum on here....
Are you the same hogrunr at »utalk.att.com? Here at dslreports you claim that you are in Fayetteville, AR but by reading your posts at utalk you claim that you are in Houston, TX that you have FTTH, that your daddy is an 30 year veteran at&t employee and that you know at&t executives 'fairly high up' like in this post.
»utalk.att.com/utalk/board/messag···d.id=944

You made an complete idiot out of yourself at the official uverse site.
»utalk.att.com/utalk/board/messag···g&page=1

I invite anyone to review your posts at »utalk.att.com

Now you want to bring your nonsense censorship and defamation tactics to dslreports.


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Re: Karl nails it

??


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A fun read

The above piece was a fun read. But it could have been summed up very quickly with "Phone companies offer more bribes to Martin than cable companies".

If Comcast decides to up the anty by giving him a few million more than the telco's, he'll back-peddle faster than a 3 legged duck. So when he does reverse these regulations, you'll know the Comcast execs will be getting lower bonuses this year.


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he won't because telcos will just pay him more.

telco realizes the power Martin has. he can sink them. if telco loses Martin/the FCC, they are screwed.


Uncle Paul

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Re: Picture

said by Matt3:

Does his smug picture make anyone else want to punch him in the mouth?
I wonder what Lil Jimmy Norton would want to put in his sweet mouth.. Arrrrraghhhhh


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Best article I've ever read on this site

Kudos to Karl Bode See Profile and DSLR for posting this. Cable companies are getting the shaft, and its not going to be good for anybody in the long run. I know that others will be quick to point out that if the shoe were on the other foot, cable would be trying to use favor with the FCC to get its agenda passed at the expense of everybody else. Sure, and satellite would be too, etc. That's why we have an FCC, and in theory they're supposed to make sure the opportunity is fair. Right now that FCC is using its authority to brow beat an entire industry at the request of another.
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Ahrenl

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Re: Seriously?

How are the feds in the way of MaBell competing? Besides, you know, crippling MaBell's competitors...

Ahrenl

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Re: A fun read

It's not just money to Martin, Telco's can make Martin's life miserable by having numerous senators and executive branchers hounding him day and night.

rileyjam514
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Re: Hypocrisy in Goverment

Might I add, in Karl's defense, he's the primary news editor for DSLR during the week and has been for quite some time. He's also gone out of his way to point out that this is an editorial. Besides, he's a commentator - it's his job to give people his opinion, regardless of where it comes from.
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FFH5
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Martin - another take on his reign at the FCC

One - given his presumed political ambitions in NC, he probably won't be taking some job with AT&T when his time as FCC Commissioner ends. He will be running for some political office - either a statewide office or as a member of Congress in some NC district. And as a Republican with a national reputation he will get all the contributions he needs from business. He won't need telco or cable to get money to run.

Two - he IS giving cable a tougher time at the FCC than the telcos. As to his motivations - who knows. But there are more easily enforced laws on the books about cable regulation than telco regulation that the FCC can act on. It may merely mean it is easier to regulate cable and that is why they bear the brunt. And by sticking it to cable it may help his reputation as a friend of the middle class when he runs for office. People at BBR hate the telcos as much as the cable companies, but out in the rest of the country cable is hated more than telco because TV used to be free - telephones never were.

Three - he has stuck it to telcos in a way too. He has done nothing to prevent cable companies from seriously poaching telephone users from the telcos. And except for enforcing E911 laws that were passed, cable has had a regulation free crack at getting those telephone users.

Four - if you want to see who Martin is really helping out, it is the content providers; TV networks; internet content providers, etc. If the FCC and Martin really wanted to see cable rates come down they would be going after all the consolidation in the content industry and preventing them from bundling TV networks like Disney, ESPN, etc are doing. Both the cable industry and the telcos TV prices are at the mercy of Hollywood content providers. To get ESPN, the access providers have to take a half dozen crap channels to get the ones they want.

Five - both cable and telco will continue to do just fine no matter what the FCC rules. And if he tries to stick it to cable, those decisions will get overturned in court like they were in the past. And if the court doesn't help, cable will just get the law changed in Congress.

In Summary: I don't think he is really giving cable or telco any real breaks. It is the TV networks and the conglomerates that control entertainment businesses that are really getting the breaks. And when he runs for political office, it is those companies that control the news organizations that will make sure to not make him look bad or dig too deeply in to his past policy decisions that could embarrass him during a run for office.
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fiberguy
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Re: Hypocrisy in Goverment

said by hogrunr:

Sounds like Karl is a little bitter...notice he's the mod for the Road Runner forum on here....
To be honest with you, and I'm not always on the same page as Karl, but this particular news item, in my opinion, is well written and, I hate to use this term, but a fair and balanced take on Martin.

Also, hog, if you knew much about Karl, his positions are generally not pro cable.

I find this piece of his to focus on the man himself (Martin) and verifiable actions that he's made over the past leading up to now.

Bitter? I didn't see that and I'm one of Karl's worst critics at times.
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cable sucks

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Cable SUCKS.. Way to go Martin

So he is anti cable... they need their crap fed to them for they have forced it long enough on us consumers!

Giving hand outs to Verizon and it's ilk are paving the way for better broadband! Better broadband services equals no longer having the need to buy into a cable TV business model as we consume everything through our fast pipes!

I pay $40 a month for Internet and use it to watch content(Joost, Hulu, Tudo), talk thru Skype and surf the net. More will follow...

Tim2
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Kevin Martin's real job

I've said this before, but I'll say it again: If Kevin Martin came out and said, "I'm the telco's bitch," it would be a refreshing note of subtlety.

fiberguy
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Re: Seriously?

said by dogo88:

... that when given a chance, stick it to them hard.
So tell me if this is what you're saying.. it's ok to be in government to take out personal issues of your own and not take the job to do the business of the people, right?

Right or wrong in his outcome, it's the mentality behind the reasons that bothers me.

There's something that you and everyone else here has to remember - be it cable, phone, cellular, ISP, what have you, congress can't regulate "arrogant and stupid CSRs" or the likes. It's not government's job to legislate morality. On the flip side, it can be said that there are plenty consumers out there with piss poor attitudes, and who also are arrogant and stupid.

The scope in which government needs to be involved in the workings of any part of society needs to be limited. You can't make people love anything and you can't force anyone to smile at you over the phone.

Before you go on to the surface of my post, read into it to see what I'm saying... IOW, remove your emotion from this post.. just as I'm saying you have to do when you look at society as a whole.

There are just certain things that only government is big enough to do, and then there are things that society will take care on it's own. (ie: Gov can't always force non-arrogance with in a company, but they CAN allow and make it easier for someone else to come in and compete with the, and that doesn't always mean to put chains on the one guy putting them at a disadvantage to favor someone else)
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fiberguy
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It's not competition when something is handed to you. It's more like Robin hood only this time he's taking from the rich to give to the favored or friend.
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reply to Shamayim

Re: So, is this good or bad

No sane person would ever assume the FCC in any form is a "consumer advocate". This editorial's main thesis is invalid. The FCC protects the government's interests, nothing else.


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Re: Karl nails it

said by jslik:

"TV rates have continued to rise with the entry of the baby bells into the market...The promise of lower TV prices is simply used as a PR carrot on a stick (see Bell franchise reform) in order to get baby bell-lobbied laws passed -- with Kevin Martin's help."
Kevin Martin is assured a lucrative position in 2009, so I understand his motivation....but why do so many on this board buy into the Bellspeak?
TV rates are still high because the nexus of control is with the content providers and not with the access providers. Hollywood and the 4 major entertainment companies control prices. Having the telcos deliver TV in addition to cable and satellite has not changed that fact at all.
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Re: So, is this good or bad

said by RadioDoc:

No sane person would ever assume the FCC in any form is a "consumer advocate". This editorial's main thesis is invalid. The FCC protects the government's interests, nothing else.
All government regulatory agencies are more attuned to the needs of those they are regulating than the public at large. If they are in thrall to anyone other than the industries they regulate, it is to the special interest groups that have the money and time, and will put out the effort and organization to be heard. The general public just doesn't care enough to be heard or do anything about these agencies except complain to their friends and relatives.
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adisor19

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Re: Seriously?

said by Topmounter:

The Feds just need to get out of the way and let MaBell compete with Cable and Satellite.
LOL you meant that as a joke.. Right ?!

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