cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| For Life
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Verizon made it clear they'll honor contracts -- our guess being they'll offer introductory FiOS deals when DSL contracts expire. Still, it does raise the question of what happens to "for life" customers who are happy with slower (and cheaper) DSL. Will Verizon offer them the same speed at the same price, but offer it via fiber?
Why don't you ask any Tivo owner who purchased a "For Life" subscription for guide updates. "For Life" is for the life of the product. In Tivo's case, it's that DVR. For Verizon's case, it's the life of DSL service.
Sure it's not what the consumer wants to hear. And I bet 99% of those subscribers that purchased the "For Life" service expected it to be that way forever. I'm just telling you what the Verizon Lawyers are going to say. |
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aefstoggaflm
Open Source Fan
Premium
join:2002-03-04
Bethlehem, PA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
2 edits |  In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated..
I hope they don't force it on people, right away. That is not right.
What ever happened to: Competition (choice) is a good thing?
[EDIT] I hope they give plenty advanced warning to the consumer.
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
 ·Optimum Online
| Want To Bet in Verizon's Favor?
though she did note that "if the time ever came when this situation occurred, we'd evaluate what's fair for all concerned and then do that. Our goal would be to provide great service and retain and grow customers for Verizon." Want to bet that "what's fair" will be what's fair for Verizon and not the consumer. Since we have already seen that "unlimited" means "limited" in the Verizon dictionary, I would imagine "lifetime" has a similar limited definition such as lifetime of a fly. Alternately some guys will show up late at night and cause "lifetime" to end at that moment.
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madrhino
join:2004-07-03
 ·Verizon FIOS
2 edits | said by n2jtx  : Alternately some guys will show up late at night and cause "lifetime" to end at that moment.
If they were sent by Verizon they probably wouldn't show up until 3 weeks late. |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | reply to aefstoggaflm
Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated..
do you really NEED another choice with FiOS verizon can cut my copper POTS line any day
id sell a kidney for 20/20 FiOS |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by elios :do you really NEED another choice with FiOS verizon can cut my copper POTS line any day id sell a kidney for 20/20 FiOS id sell a kidney for any speed of FiOS.
Verizon show us no love in qwestland. 
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JTRockville
Data Ho
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join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: | You can have one of my kidneys.
But I'm keepin' my FiOS.
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meskinct
Mad Scientist at Work
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join:2002-01-07
Danbury, CT
clubs: | What's the number?
So the real question is how many 'for life' customers does VZ have currently? |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ | reply to cdru
Re: For Life
The price is for the life of the service. The service itself isn't for life. |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to meskinct
Re: What's the number?
Better question is , if that is the case , why not give the people that price and speed for life , even on the fios network. Just don't cut the offer.
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Jodokast96
R.I.P Bassman442
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join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ | reply to elios
Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated..
When you are talking about people only spending $15-$20/month at 768, yeah they do need another choice. No FIOS plans that cheap, are there? |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | i dont see why Verizon cant just keep them on that speed plan on the fiber then |
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Jodokast96
R.I.P Bassman442
Premium
join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
| That would be fine, but then they'd have to offer it up to everyone else as well. I don't think they want to offer up any FIOS plan for $15, no matter the speed. They need to make money back for the huge investment they are making, and offering low cost packages won't do it for them. Maybe once they start showing a profit on FIOS you might see budget plans, but not until at least then. |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO
·Mediacom
| true but i wouldnt want less then 1.5Mbps any way and dont know why any one would you cant really do any thing with it
i guess if all you do is check your e-mail then its fine but you can do with 56k
but yes maybe verizon should offer a 20-25 buck 1.5/128 plan
even a 30 buck 1.5/1.5 would be fine for most |
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Jodokast96
R.I.P Bassman442
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join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
1 edit | They're cheapest plan is $40 for 10/2. That's the price point they need to be at right now to get a return on deployment. Most people don't need that much speed, so if the offer a lower package, most would go with that. So the end up not making back the money they need. Right now it's cheaper for them to give more speed than offer lower, cheaper packages. |
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JohnA
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
| Answers Posted Yesterday
If Karl had read yesterday's thread, he could have saved a phone call. I posted that this was not new to the TOS. Also posted that an attempt to figure out what to do with 768/128 customers was made after this was put in the TOS. It was not successful.
As I recall, the CPE is too expensive for just phone, or just internet. Don't believe TV was up back then. So you won't see anyone being forced to fiber till they have cheap solutions for those, or a much cheaper ONT. Subs may still need to take a bundle to keep that for life thing. |
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yo
@verizon.net | Same Packages over Fiber
Why not just offer the exact same packages over fiber? 768/128 and 3/768 with the same pricing structure. And If people want more speed, they can always upgrade to the 10/2 or higher packages. |
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Jodokast96
R.I.P Bassman442
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join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ | See my posts above. |
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rebus9
join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay
·Verizon FIOS
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to elios
Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated..
said by elios :true but i wouldnt want less then 1.5Mbps any way and dont know why any one would you cant really do any thing with it Well, that depends on your point of view. This past weekend Road Runner had a rare (for us) outage that lasted almost all day Sunday.
My neighbor on FIOS gave me his wireless SSID and WEP key so I could use his connection while mine was down. He has 10/2 but with the (weak marginal) signal from 2 houses away, I could barely get 1.0 Mbps. Still, 1 megabit is like heaven when you have no other option, and my wife and I surfed the web just fine all day with no complaints.
Let's be real about this.
768k or 1.5 Mbps service is great for normal web & email users like our parents and co-workers. By "normal", I mean NOT rabid YouTube fans, P2P, Usenet, and other bandwidth hogs like most of us on these forums. We love our internet and are addicted to downloads. Normal users have no clue, and no desire, to download Terabytes of data each year.
I'd die on 3 Mbps DSL and my 7 Mbps Road Runner seems more inadequate each day. But I was perfectly happy on 1.0 Mbps when I limited myself to just web and email that day.
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to Jodokast96
If they offered the DSL customers a chance to move to FiOS for the same price, package and everything else- they would not have to offer it to everyone else; especially if the customer has a "for-life" deal. The deal would only be for those customers and it would say that. They would simply have a sign-up code or flag your account or something to know who you are verse another customer wanting the plan; it simply would not show up in whats available at the other address. |
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