DotMac4
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Huntington Beach, CA
1 edit | Supply will increase with demand
Supply will simply accelerate. Level 3 and other providers have nothing to gain and everything to lose by reaching capacity. Reaching capacity costs them a lot of money and there is certainly a large opportunity cost. It is in their best interest to keep up with demand. |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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Long Beach, CA | and the shills...
will blame it on P2P |
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kcblack
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Chicago, IL
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| Doom and Gloom
4:20 into the video...makes you wonder what they have been smokin' 
As I remember, the Internet (notice the capital I) has been doomed to meltdown several times in the past and it hasn't come to pass yet.
There has been one of those rules of thumb that computer guys have known since the COBOL days. "Data expands to fill the available space", its true of RAM, its true of disk storage, its true of bandwidth....'nuff said.
Kevin
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD | Only If...
Does Netcraft confirm it?
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jwersan
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Re: Doom and Gloom
I'm sorry, your logical response can not be accepted, we all must put on our hats and wait for the imminent meltdown of the internet. 
Have these people forgotten about all the MILES of dark fiber that exist NOW!
FIOS has PLENTY of bandwidth to go around NOW and with the GPON upgrade, they will have an even larger pipe to your home to use. 
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joker5656
join:2006-06-23
Dallas, GA
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Re: and the shills...
said by hopeflicker  :will blame it on P2P that's why they want to get rid of Network Neutrality |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
| OTA HDTV
Just over the past few months, 3 more ota hdtv channels have popped up in my area.
One of »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···15100017 and »www.radioshack.com/product/index···e=family and Im getting 9 channels. |
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spewak
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Elk Grove, CA
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Re: and the shills...
said by joker5656 :said by hopeflicker :will blame it on P2P that's why they want to get rid of Network Neutrality Exactly. Nothing more, nothing less!! 
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| excellent stenography
the USA story is a brilliant example of main stream media stenography:
take whatever someone tells you and write it down, with no fact checking, alternate sourcing or critical thinking applied.
I wonder how much writers for USA Today make? I can stenog as good as the next guy. |
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jebba2005
join:2005-01-13
Portland, ME
·Great Works Internet
·RoadRunner Cable
| hmm
In my MIS class, in one chapter we are told that overbuilding fiber nertworks was part of the cause of the dot com bubble. It also talks about the massive amount of dark fiber sitting dormant. The next chapter claims the internet is unable to handle the traffic it sees today. Can they have it both ways?
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Re: excellent stenography
said by nasadude :take whatever someone tells you and write it down, with no fact checking, alternate sourcing or critical thinking applied. Wow... I totally agree with you! Hell froze over again!
said by nasadude :I wonder how much writers for USA Today make? I can stenog as good as the next guy. Don't forget the real fictional writers are out on strike. USA Today has to make do with scabs till the next contract is approved.
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swhx7
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Elbonia
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Re: Supply will increase with demand
Isn't there excess capacity on the mainlines? That's what I've read. The bottleneck is from the endpoints to the backbones. Residential service in particular needs to get upgraded to fiber.
It's easy to get these dire predictions if you assume demand will continue increasing at the present rate, but also assume that infrastructure will remain the same. But that's not realistic.
The study is contrived to support anti-neutrality political maneuvering. |
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TMMerlin
The Devil made me do it
join:2003-06-19
Oxford, MI
·EarthLink
| Not to worry !
I am sure the "traffic shapers" and the "ISP throttles" will push and push and push and raise costs and raise costs and when we get the "volume monitor police" authorized by the Patriot Act ( yah see all that huge traffic is just disguised terrorist activity planning) and we that just pluck along won't feel a thing anyway !
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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Grand Rapids, MI
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·Comcast
| Well, it sells newspapers.
Seems that the media as a whole are all about putting fear into the public. I compare this article to all the fearmongering I read about when it comes to Halloween and kids candy being poisoned. Will the internet end in 2010? I seriously doubt it.
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TScheisskopf
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Belvidere, NJ
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Re: hmm
The networks know One True Thing: in Washington, FUD, lubricated by lobbying money, works.
The average congresscritter knows nothing about IT and reflexively accepts both the word of the industry "experts" and their contributions.
So yes, if we don't speak up, en masse, they can have it both ways. And they will. If we don't speak up. |
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BabyBear
Keep wise ...with Night-Owl
join:2007-01-11
| Hang in there!
So I guess this means that if AOL could just hang in there till 2010 they might make a come back. Seeing as how with the internet being so slow, whats old is new again! We all go retro and back to dialup! 
Well, at least till the Mayan calendar ends in 2012.
"Sign up now for the Comcast triple play! Internet dialup at blazing 44kbps speed, with a massive 100 hours of monthly usage included! Comcast VOP phone service, that's right Voice over Pots is back! And the areas voted #1 HD TV service with picture so compressed and pixelated every show looks like a crime drama with peoples faces 'mosaic-ed' out. All for the low starting price of $149.99 per month with 3 year commitment."  |
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Matt
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Re: hmm
said by jebba2005 :In my MIS class, in one chapter we are told that overbuilding fiber nertworks was part of the cause of the dot com bubble. It also talks about the massive amount of dark fiber sitting dormant. The next chapter claims the internet is unable to handle the traffic it sees today. Can they have it both ways? Yes, because there has to be equipment on each end of the fiber to make it active and then ongoing maintenance to the fiber and equipment. That's the expensive part ...
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jervin123
join:2005-04-14
Philadelphia, PA | *OMG*
OMG what will the world do without the internet, maybe the Chinese will take over our power grid right before then. |
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Packeteers
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join:2005-06-18
Forest Hills, NY
2 edits | reply to jebba2005
Re: hmm
After working for a company that laid backbone fiber all over NYC, I can testify this is true. We used to lay cables and termination test 384 fiber strand cables, while the customer only used 16 of them. so between the dark fibers, and quantum leaps being made every year in data compression algorithms, we won't have capacity problems probably ever. there may be a bottle neck forming here and there that backbone designers will have to circumvent, but no apocalyptic capacity shortage. the expensive part IS laying the fiber. attaching equipment to each strand is justified and amortized by the port addition and throughput metering that is ultimated charged back to the customer. so higher bandwidth capacity requirements may not reduce our broadband end use cost anytime soon, but there certainly will never be a shortage of it unless you live in an area who's Central Office distribution center near you is not worth building out just to serve a few people like you. some areas have this problem even with old aDSL copper availability, especially if they are well penetrated by cable TV operators. |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03 | What about Al?
Can't we just hire Al Gore to invent a new, faster internet? |
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