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Comments on news posted 2007-11-19 10:56:32: More warnings of a looming bandwidth apocalypse, this time from USAToday, who insists that the Internet "will start to seem pokey as early as 2010, as use of interactive and video-intensive services overwhelms local cable, phone and wireless Internet.. ..
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Bellunder
@teksavvy.com | Bell Sympatico will give the internet 9 more lives Old Bell Sympatico up in Canada will give the internet at least 1000 more years by limiting all bandwidth downloaded and uploaded. That goes double for just about every isp in Canada. Canada will give the internet 9 more lives! | |
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Rogue Wolf
Is Kind Of A Big Deal In Yemen
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| Do Your Part! Dear cash cow consumer,
Please remember that the Internet is vital to the security and financial success of this country, much like highways. And just like highways, the Internet functions much better if you stay off of it as much as possible. Copyright pirates want to clog up the Internet by downloading things they shouldn't! This could lead to the end of free commerce and our way of life, just like the terrorists want!
What can you, the total sucker conscientious consumer do to help? You can deny the copyright pirates their "fat pipes" by buying the highest-speed Internet connection possible. Just like on a highway, if you make your lane bigger, other lanes get smaller. You can also ensure that the "highway" stays clear by using your Internet connection only for vital purposes, such as checking your Email (no pictures, please; some pictures can take up billions and billions of bits!).
By doing your part, you, the open wallet valued consumer can help save the Internet, America, and freedom itself!
With patriotism and respect,
Your local Internet Service Provider
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I have learned to ignore such naysayers, when... quelling... them... hm?... was out of the question. | |
| jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Meh... Doesn't matter, Al Gore said the environment will be ruined by 2009 anyhow.
I'm honestly not sure which one I find harder to believe.... | |
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Pv8man999
@wideopenwest.com
| One word.....FIOS... Or some sort of Fiber Optic for all
Fiber nodes, fiber streets ( or blocks)
they would still need to cut bandwidth down at some point, but 100Mbps would be a sweet spot for a good while I think.
as for the total bandwidth at the ISP, obviously they will need to advance. Tell em to take a visit to Penn State and learn a thing or two about raising speed and bandwidth, (as if they didn't know already) | |
| daveberstein
join:2002-07-15
New York, NY
| USA Today Nonsense - Actual report interesting Karl and folks
The story "capacity problems in Internet" is wildly incorrect, and should come out of the rear end of a male cow. They even badly misquoted the press release in the lead.
I'll be writing a note to the editor at USA Today - anyone interested in joining please emails me daveb the usual dslprime.com.
I did however spend two hours with the report, which is mostly solid and very different from the press release. Whan you actually work through the data in the report, you discover the real "conclusion" is that local DSL and cable will not be fast enough in a few years if people want to watch a lot of HD video. In particular, the upstream is wildly insufficient for what the Internet can deliver in five years.
That's probably true. AT&T is planning on offering no more than 1 meg upstream for the foreseable future, and that's already a limit. Cable if they don't upgrade to DOCSIS 3.0 has a similar problem, and the upgrades are not guaranteed for 2010-2012. Johna is very clear that the rest of the network, especially the core routers, can handle anything likely to be thrown at it.
Reporting from a press release from a known AT&T advocate without checking it is very poor work.
Dave Burstein
DSl Prime | |
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Trackball
@ameritech.net
|  WTF? OMG! ROFLOL!!!
fiber to the home - so people can be sold faster speeds so the demand more out of the backbone? Not that I am complaining. I'll take highspeed, I'd rather take it mobile
Someone say mobile? what about 4G wireless? Oh yea, isn't sprint/nextel ith another company already working on building out 4G while everyone else on the block is trying to sell people on 3G?
Okay, what about the 'ultimate on go mobile' Sat service? Its a laugh!!!! the pricing is too high and the contention and bandwidth management is... well... don't go to sat service for highspeed unless it is your only hope.
which leaves only one more mentioned to pick fun at. How long has internet over power lines supposed to be coming? how many roadblocks? and really the powerlines are strained enough for power use! now, if you have clean power in your home and want to use power lines in your home to connect computers, that is fine. it will probably be better than wifi as more things use the same frequencies n the future, but any new home should have the wiring done during the building process.
I'd sorry. I have supported wifi and sat service. I haven't supported cell network wifi or power lines... and I have supported the more common dsl and dialup. I have to laugh.
And if you want a really good laugh, how about the big backbones fighting and not passing traffic... not because of lack of bandwidth.... how many years ago is that now???
I am awaiting the rebirth of an aol style network that involve local nets. "here is your nieghborhood / county / state... oh? you want to visit the rest of the world? okay...
I still have hopes for muni wifi | |
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Trackball
@ameritech.net
|  upon review
1) look at the increase in the difference between upload and download. Ignoring the more upload intensive internet usage, the more you download, the more you will have to upload so that you get your downloads, yet upload speeds do note nicely increase with download, except for a few places I know of offering symmetrical service.
2) while symmetrical may not be needed for most people, there are few that are doing heavy uploading and the trend is going to increase. video chat, online gaming, voip phones, all use more upload than the old fashioned browsing, IRC, or telnet
3) while somethings cannot be mirrored, what can, should. Your VPN connection and other server connections need to trverse the whole backbone, common pages / videos should be cached on the local ISP side. First, the isp uses less of their backbone connection because instead of 100 or more requests per minute for the same info there is only one to update the cache on heir server. Second, because it stays for the most part within your local ISP, you enjoy better speeds. Sadly this works for only a few of web 2.0 and will work for less of the web 3.0 items. I am sure the major websites wouldn't mind the lower costs (not having to expand their bandwidth capacity) while having the links that keep them running still being clicked on.
4) In the end, the biggest problem facing bandwidth is compromised computers. Think of the spam sending zombies and those who cite that about 90% of the email traversing the web to mail servers and then to peoples computers is spam... I have seen what an infected computer does to people's upload bandwidth. It gets pegged. A safe network is a healthy network... healthy network is a fast network | |
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irwin lazar
@comcast.net
| Nemertes Report on the Internet Hi All,
Thanks to whoever posted this, and thanks as well for the comments. We've made the entire report available on our site for anyone who wants to read it:
»www.nemertes.com/internet_singul···on_web?#
We've also created a FAQ to answer some of the questions about the creation of the report:
»www.nemertes.com/studies/interne···ions_faq
We look forward to the continued discussion around the report and it's conclusions!
Thanks,
Irwin Lazar
Nemertes Research | |
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linicx
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2002-12-03
United State
 ·CenturyLink
| Big Deal I remember a few years ago when they said the sky was falling, too. It didn't. And Warchalking was dangerous. It wasn't. Instead we got faster FSB, bigger drives, cheaper memory and a lot of us in small rural communities saw the end of the dial up modems for the first time. Now there is Wireless cafe, FIOS, VOIP, iPhones with TV, muni home-bred systems and a host of other goodies. AT&T wants it all because it is never satisfied with what it has. Just say, "NO" to more corporate interference.
Viva la WWW! 
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matt363
@on.ca | That kind of sucks... Couldn't they just wipe all the useless stuff to increase space? | |
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