TWSux
@cuny.edu
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| Thanks for nothing Time Warner
Time Warner, why can't you give me 20/2 instead of 10/.5? If verizon is testing 100GBps, what does that say about you? |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs: |  So...
Verizon are you going to offer FiOS to us here in the Miami area?? If not, I really don't give a rats A$$!!
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Done_Posting
Shoot to kill
Premium
join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH
 ·buckeye cable
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Re: Thanks for nothing Time Warner
said by TWSux :
Time Warner, why can't you give me 20/2 instead of 10/.5? If verizon is testing 100GBps, what does that say about you?
I think you might have misunderstood (unless you're just trying to make a joke). This is a backbone link trial, not a broadband trial. Also, it's not 100 GB/s (800 Gbps), it was a test of 100 Gbps P2P transport. Big difference.
- Tate
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blc
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MadDog3057
Ex Astris, Scientia
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join:2002-02-26
Miami, FL
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Re: So...
said by ropeguru :Verizon are you going to offer FiOS to us here in the Miami area?? If not, I really don't give a rats A$$!! Seriously. Why would they have fiber down here if they don't offer service here?
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Mike
Premium,Mod
join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
clubs:  | A backbone is a lot different than FTTH. |
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rebus9
join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay
 ·Verizon FIOS
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to MadDog3057
said by MadDog3057 :Seriously. Why would they have fiber down here if they don't offer service here? Are you kidding? Broadband is only a small piece of the pie, and not necessarily the most profitable one either.
Verizon Business = MCI Business. Think larger than broadband. Much larger. Your $59/mo. is chicken s**t money in the larger picture.
Think voice circuits. Think OC-3, OC-12, OC-48, OC-192, OC-768. Think Metro Ethernet. Who would want such things? Think circuits for which datacenters pay $100,000-300,000 per month. Think insurance and financial company headquarters with Fast-E, Gig-E, and 10Gig-E links for internet transit and point-to-point around the globe.
It's funny how people equate internetworking (and the internet in general) as only used for bringing YouTube to the household.
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Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York
 ·PHONE POWER
·Broadvox Direct
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| So much for capacity worries
This sends a nice big STFU to claims by AT&T about "network capacity apocalypse by 2010."
That's pretty impressive. Question is.. Can they transport sustained 100Gbps on the backhaul? Not gonna be a pretty sight if they don't test that before-hand. |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs: | reply to rebus9
Re: So...
If that were the case, then why even mention FiOS IPTV??? Why not just claim it as tests for backbone connectivity???
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rebus9
join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay
·Verizon FIOS
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to Network Guy
Re: So much for capacity worries
said by Network Guy :Question is.. Can they transport sustained 100Gbps on the backhaul? Yeah, backbone links are typically less problematic capacity-wise than regional transport. Am I worried? Not really.
10 years ago the average household had 56k dialup. Today 20/20 is commodity. That's a ~350-fold increase. So where will we be in 10 more years? 
I think the bottleneck to deployment of these magical 100G/sec (or even terabit/sec) circuits will be equipment costs.
Anyone whose purchased line cards to terminate OC-x circuits will appreciate the magnitude of the investment required to accomplish this, not to mention the switch/router chassis to house those cards. Each switch/router is a 7-figure investment, and there are thousands of these devices that will need to be upgraded accordingly.
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MadDog3057
Ex Astris, Scientia
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join:2002-02-26
Miami, FL
| reply to ropeguru
Re: So...
said by ropeguru :If that were the case, then why even mention FiOS IPTV??? Why not just claim it as tests for backbone connectivity??? I guess they just sent Fios TV as something to test with. You are right though, it gives the impression that if they were testing Fios TV it would be because they either offer the service here or are planning to.
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Done_Posting
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join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
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said by ropeguru :If that were the case, then why even mention FiOS IPTV??? Why not just claim it as tests for backbone connectivity??? Why not? Shoving FiOS TV down the pipe is an excellent way of testing the circuit. The best type of file to use during a bandwidth test is one that is already compressed, and FiOS TV fits the bill. It's no different than when the speed testing tools here on DSLR measure your bandwidth by seeing how much of an MP3 file you can download and upload within a certain amount of time....
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Done_Posting
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join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
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Re: So much for capacity worries
We replaced our Mahi backhaul gear ($700,000+ each) with several Turin chassis ($400,000 each) recently. The Turin stuff is capable of OC-384, whereas I believe the Mahi maxed at OC-192. I want to say the OC-48 cards we populate the Turin are like $15K a pop, but I may be off. In any event, this is a good example of backbone equipment costs coming down. The Turin is beefier yet almost half the cost of the old stuff! Who knows -- by the time 2010 rolls around we'll probably see OC-768 gear in the $200K range!
- Tate
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madrhino
join:2004-07-03
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| Learn to crawl before attempting flight
This is madness.The current FIOS network is so overbuilt the entire corporation is paralyzed.
Somebody at Verizon has to grow a set of balls and tell the investors it's not working before even their own pet FCC has to step in.
Verizon is currently in such a state of turmoil it's not even working well enough to be called dysfunctional.
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JackBauer
join:2006-08-24
Schenectady, NY | It's not working?
Huh?
Fios just became available for ordering a couple weeks ago, and I saw two installs going on within two blocks of me today.
Not saying it's an outrageous success, but to call it a failure? |
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Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York | reply to Done_Posting
Re: So much for capacity worries
As long as Cisco isn't leading nor isn't the only one rolling out next-gen equipment rollout, you can bet on continued lower costs.
Could be worst.. You could have Foundry gear. |
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Done_Posting
Shoot to kill
Premium
join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| said by Network Guy :Could be worst.. You could have Foundry gear. Haha, we actually do use Foundry's to provide WAN peering connections for our non-PtP ethernet and non-PtP DS1 / DS3 customers, as well as our sister cableco's cable modem platform. I take it your experience with Foundry equipment has been less than stellar?
- Tate
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panth1
The Coyote
join:2000-12-11
Boca Raton, FL | Amazing
They managed to run something over fiber in Florida before someone managed to cut the fiber.
I guess the construction crews are on Thanksgiving vacation. |
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Napsterbater
Premium
join:2002-12-28
Milledgeville, GA
·Windstream
·BroadVoice
| said by panth1 :They managed to run something over fiber in Florida before someone managed to cut the fiber. I guess the construction crews are on Thanksgiving vacation. HAHAHA so true.. i was with adelphia and there were like 3 or 4 big cuts that i can remember... must live in S. Fla to get the joke... |
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