jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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| what i would like
Is to be able to get another cable operator besides time warner, say cox? how about a better dsl provider like verizon say fios instead of att. I dont want the junk uverse from att with filtered internet from att. Bah
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | And I'd like to see little cuddly pink bunny rabbits hopping around delivering Easter Eggs, but guess what, it's not going to happen. |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL | Finally some blowback.
Hopefully this makes Martin think twice about being such a telco whore.
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | Script is always the same
Regulate cable= bad
Regulate telco= good
If AT&T and Comcast took Martin out to dinner I imagine the headline would be that AT&T is buying Martin while Comcast is just trying to befriend him. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | Actually, the headline would probably read, AT&T and Martin went to dinner and Comcast was forced to pay for the meal while standing in the rain on the street. |
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sholling
Premium
join:2002-02-13
Hemet, CA
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Re: Finally some blowback.
said by JSRoman  :Hopefully this makes Martin think twice about being such a telco whore. It won't help a bit. He knows that he's out of a job when Bush leaves office and has put himself in a position to collect millions in consulting fees (payoffs) from the telcos. He couldn't be more obvious if he had "Property of Verizon" tattooed on his forehead.
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
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Re: what i would like
said by openbox9 :And I'd like to see little cuddly pink bunny rabbits hopping around delivering Easter Eggs, but guess what, it's not going to happen. Seriously, jgkolt brought a point the table. You just made yourself look like an idiot. I'm sure you're proud too, but I agree with jgkolt .
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halfband
Premium
join:2002-06-01
Huntsville, AL
| reply to bogey780
Re: Script is always the same
said by bogey780 :Regulate cable= bad Regulate telco= good Telco regulation for pots made sense at one time. Even the USF started out on the right track. But money and power corrupt all.
Regulation is a tricky thing to get right. Take Verizon. Builds a new network and is mostly unregulated. Makes sense for now.
If they were forced to do open access they would not invest in the network. No franchise agreements and they move into towns quickly.
The downside, no build out requirements so not everyone gets it. CLECS are locked out, you take what verizon offers. Towns loose public access channels.
Everything is a trade-off. With these kind of natural monopolies we have limited choices:
No regulation, the customer is at the mercy of the corporations, most of which choose their own interests over the good of the customer or the state.
More regulation, adds costs and the corporations have no incentive to roll out new technology so they settle back into their fat government regulated world and abuse the customer with as many fees and as limited service as they can get away with.
Unless the FCC, PUCs and other regulators work for both the good of the customer and corporation, one side or the other comes out the looser, and the funny thing is when the corporations loose, in the end the customer always looses too.
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davoice
join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
 ·Comporium
| reply to openbox9
Re: what i would like
Ha! Apparently you haven't been out lately on Easter.
That Easter bunny is just as real as residential broadband competition in the USA. 
}Davoice |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to jimbo2150
You can agree all you want, it's still not going to happen. Besides, what do the comments (especially the ones about telcos) made by jgkolt have to do with Martin's attempt to levy additional regulation on cablecos. Perhaps you hope that Martin will require cablecos to provide wholesale access to competitors to eliminate the requirement to build out their own infrastructure. Good luck with that hope. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to davoice
There we go. Pink Easter Bunnies for everyone. |
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qworster
join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA
·DSL EXTREME
·Brand X Internet
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Vonage
1 edit | Yeah...he's pissing off THEIR sugar daddies-the MSOs!
C'mon! The only reason "other members of his party are calling it misguided and harmful" is that THEY'RE on the take from the big cable MSO's!
Let's get real-HE'S on the telco 'take' which leaves the cable 'take' for them!
Corruption running rampant in Washington, D.C.=
BUSINESS AS USUAL! |
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qworster
join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA
1 edit | reply to halfband
Yep-and they raise the rates early and often!
Just like Verizon did the other day..... |
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
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Re: what i would like
Actually - his point is valid - until these other companies are willing to lay out huge sums of money to wire a location for an undefined return - no one else is going to be able to compete even if it is allowed. He just out it in a humorous way - that is all. |
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Ebolla
join:2005-09-28
Dracut, MA | Not only willing to put up the money for cables to be run, but also needs to actually get a franchise agreement with city. If a franchise reform goes through and are no longer needed then the issue of money still stands. |
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MOTO6809
join:2007-11-05
Springfield, MA
| reply to jgkolt
said by jgkolt :Is to be able to get another cable operator besides time warner, say cox? how about a better dsl provider like verizon say fios instead of att. I dont want the junk uverse from att with filtered internet from att. Bah It cost to much to overbuild a system, when you may only get 20% of the subscribers. They would buy a system rather than build it.
The closes you may get is ATT or Verizon doing an overbuild, but that could be 15yrs from now and ATT and Verizon wouldn't overbuild each other. |
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MOTO6809
join:2007-11-05
Springfield, MA
| reply to sholling
Re: Finally some blowback.
said by sholling :said by JSRoman :Hopefully this makes Martin think twice about being such a telco whore. He couldn't be more obvious if he had "Property of Verizon" tattooed on his forehead. Isn't that the truth. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
1 edit | Kevin Martin Speaking
Hi there it's me........ |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | reply to qworster
Re: Yeah...he's pissing off THEIR sugar daddies-the MSOs!
When Cable Competes (for your congressman) Everyone Wins! |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| reply to JSRoman
Re: Finally some blowback.
said by JSRoman :Hopefully this makes Martin think twice about being such a telco whore. Highly doubtful. Once a 'ho, always a 'ho. |
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