Toadman
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Can anyone say DOA. This thing will be a dud in a year and anyone who buys it can set it right next to their betamax player and Nintendo Virtualboy! |
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dbmaven
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Talk about a niche market....
I suspect that they will have a tough time signing up customers if the only content available is movie based. Of course, given that movies are the only content available in 1080p resolution with Dolby Tru-HD or DTS HD sound (7.1 audio), I guess it's not surprising.
The price point will have to be pretty low to make this a mass market winner.
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Transmaster
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Are today taking bets on who ends up with XstreamHD, Echostar, or Direct TV. 
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TKJunkMail
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Re: For Movies Only ?
said by dbmaven  :Talk about a niche market.... I suspect that they will have a tough time signing up customers if the only content available is movie based. Of course, given that movies are the only content available in 1080p resolution with Dolby Tru-HD or DTS HD sound (7.1 audio), I guess it's not surprising. The price point will have to be pretty low to make this a mass market winner. And based on their web site they are a hardware vendor. And there is no mention of any deals they have signed with content providers or satellite owners. Basically they own nothing but some hardware gear that can route 1080P content between ground/satellite/home server.
»www.xstreamhd.com
I wouldn't look for any deliverables for quite some time.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to Transmaster
Re: Las Vegas Bookies
Yup... similar to 'voom hd' deployed then either bankrupt/fire sale or bought out.
1080p/7.1 would be great.
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Lumberjack
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Re: DOA
Yeah, this is over before it began. DirecTV is setting the standards for HD, albeit, low quality HD (if that's even possible to say). I can't see people buying DirecTV/cable w/HD to get regular channels then buying yet another service for HD movies...
However, HBO, Cinimax and the others all have "series" now and even if great only last two years then poof (except Surpranos - sp?). That being said if the selection is latest and greatest and cheaper than HBO + Cinimax combo, that might be the market.
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bogey780
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Here | ?
Sure, it may be better than HD DVD.. but is it better than blu-ray? Considering the trend HD DVD has had in their encoding quality, upconverted DVD is almost as good. |
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PolarBear
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join:2005-01-03 | Voom, anyone?
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DotMac4
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Re: ?
said by bogey780 : Considering the trend HD DVD has had in their encoding quality, upconverted DVD is almost as good. What are you talking about? Are you trolling again, trying to claim that HD DVDs have poor video encoding?  Please. There have been many blind tests with both versions of the film on both BR and HD DVD, they all look the same, some have minor difference each way, but nothing major. Nor did any upconverted DVD look as good as either of them. |
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JoeG4
join:2001-12-16
945941 | How dare a small company try to do this! Only AT&T and comcast are allowed to start up media enterprises, and anyone who wishes to challenge will either go bankrupt or bought out! |
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Siryak
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said by bogey780 :Sure, it may be better than HD DVD.. but is it better than blu-ray? Considering the trend HD DVD has had in their encoding quality, upconverted DVD is almost as good. Never put away those $ony pom poms do yah. It is a shame people will try to mislead people with BS like this to support a company they aren't even a part of. |
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partysource
join:2000-11-25
Phoenix, AZ | reply to imrf
I agree with you! Blue-Nay is BETA Re-Born!
I am going with HD-DVD |
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MarkinCT
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| What's really funny..
...to me at least... Most of the 'deployed' HD-TVs are max out at 720p anyway. So you know there is someone somewhere saying "Yeah, 1080P, that's for me!" When they've got a TV that can't even handle it... (Like me  )
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ | reply to Toadman
Re: DOA
this sounds like it just upconverts as NOBODY (terrestrial, cable or satellite) is sending true 1080P broadcasts. * y a w n *
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bogey780
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Re: ?
'There have been many blind tests with both versions of the film on both BR and HD DVD, they all look the same, some have minor difference each way, but nothing major.'
So you're telling me that the same encode looks the same across two seperate containers? I'm shocked!
No, the trouble is HD DVD hasn't had a really great encode in a while. Hot Fuzz was probably the last truly great one. Since then it's just been half-hearted attempts. They're just not trying hard to make the best. No wonder when their entire userbase consists of people who really don't care about getting the best. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
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It's not BS. HD DVD just hasn't been having great AV scores lately. They're just not trying anymore. |
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siouxmoux
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Re: Voom, anyone?
I can say this Voom 2.0 will Boom 2.0 |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
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Re: What's really funny..
Everyone I know has a 1080p tv. Are they recent adopters? Well, within the last year. I don't know about most people, but I guess most plasma tvs and many LCDs are 720p. Meh, they're both fine, but the people I know want the best thing available sans the marketechnology... |
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Re: For Movies Only ?
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What does it mean to watch HD in your home? Unless you’re watching a true HD DVD, it often doesn’t mean much. That’s because most home viewing systems (be it online or through your cable connection) aren’t set up to deliver full-quality HD.
For movies, 1080i might as well be 1080p. Due to the low framerate, deinterlacers can perfectly construct 1080 progressive lines. In fact, because there are 60 interlaced fields per second for only 24 frames, there's even some redundancy that can be thrown out entirely. The area where 1080p would really shine is "video" material like sporting events. If this is for movies only, 1080p is really wasted here.
Less compression, however, would certainly be a good thing. I think for most people, what DirecTV and the cable companies offer are good enough for the average sized HD bigsreen, so I don't see this being a big hit. |
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