N O Y B
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join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR | What is Deplyment?
What is Deplyment? |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC
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| said by N O Y B  :What is Deplyment? Someone trying to make themselves look better by pointing out a mistake in public rather than via private IM.
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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1 edit |  Link to all the details being suggested
Here is the full recommendation of the USF study group:
»hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···-4A1.pdf
And what FCC Commissioner Martin has to say about it:
»hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···-4A2.pdf
Democrat Copps isn't happy because the study group didn't recommend shoving more money in to the USF:
»hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···-4A4.pdf |
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N O Y B
St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
2 edits | reply to Matt
Re: What is Deplyment?
And yet you scorn me in public rather than with a private IM. Just have to love those who do not have the self discipline to practice what they preach.
I don't operate behind closed doors.
Write article and publish in public. Mistake is in public. Correction is in public. Those who can not take it in public, should not write articles and publish in public.
Besides it was just light hearted pointing out of a typo, lighten up.
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EasyDoesIt
join:2005-04-12
3 edits | USF Slush Fund
Basically, the board is saying that small rural providers are taking too much of the money that the big guys are putting into the USF.
Silly me. I always thought the consumer was footing bill for the USF slush fund and all along it has been the big telcos. Boy do I feel stupid. |
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cdigioia
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join:2005-06-08
korea, repub
·Korea Telecom
| reply to Matt
Re: What is Deplyment?
said by Matt :Someone trying to make themselves look better by pointing out a mistake in public rather than via private IM. Agreed, not a big deal, but this is a friendly site. It's in a bit poor taste to post the correction publicly.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
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Re: USF Slush Fund
said by EasyDoesIt :Basically, the board is saying that small rural providers are taking too much of the money that the big guys are putting into the USF. Correction. the big guys aren't putting ANYTHING into the fund. WE ARE!
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
| Total B.S.
I know how to prevent waste... let's get rid of this corporate welfare.
My wife and I were in the mobile phone store earlier this week picking out new phones. That's right, a store that does nothing but sell mobile phones and contracts. If mobile phone companies are making so much money that they can afford the overhead of their own stores, they don't need public money to fund rural deployment.
Now what do you suppose I found in this store besides phones and plans? Near the front desk was a big sign with pamphlets advising mobile customers to urge the government to release more funds for rural mobile coverage. I thought to myself, WTF!
The sad part about this is that 99% of the people that read the pamphlet would think it's a great idea. Damn straight! Why shouldn't the government fix the dead spots on my trip to the lake house! What truly disgusts me is the number of people I meet that seem to be numb to the fact that we are the government. The government doesn't have any money unless we give it to them.
Here's my take on it...does anyone remember when PCs cost thousands of dollars? Remember when the computer companies had their own stores? Remember when there were stores that sold nothing but software? All gone because the margin on all of these items will no longer support such activities.
I think the mobile phone companies are making far too much money. The last thing they need is corporate welfare.
And my gripe doesn't stop there. Anyone else feeding at the USF trough can also do without. |
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stevephl
join:2000-11-27
Colorado Springs, CO
·Comcast
| Excellent points,
The best course of action would be the elimination of the USF altogether we already have enough taxes with corruption running rampant in Washington DC irrespective of party affiliation. No more USF taxes!!!
Living large in Colorado |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
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Re: What is Deplyment?
said by N O Y B :What is Deplyment? for this FCC, deployment means wasting the money by giving it to the incumbents (probably the telcos - I don't think Kevin likes the cable companies) to provide the broadband services instead of wasting it by giving it to companies that get $3000/sub in subsidies (Hawaii) or multiple companies getting identical subsidies in the same market.
different day, same story |
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DemonChicken
join:2006-10-15
Boon, MI |  reply to stevephl
Yay?
Cell phones already cover most rural areas except for areas where no one NEEDS it. However, Lets take money away from that and give it to rural BB. That would be what I prefer. |
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zed260
join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN | they will probably just take the money from the fund say they are adding more broadband and do nothing but raise rates |
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DemonChicken
join:2006-10-15
Boon, MI
·Alltel Axess
| Probably, I'm to young to fully understand the effects of taxes and the consequences as I don't give 30% of my money to the feds. Nice to know you didn't call me a noobtard though.
So to get this straight this is where some of our tax dollars are being wasted? Like how I saw on the news how they have sent government lawyers to a tropical island to investigate the health of cats? Trying to make the people on the island lock them up every night or something stupid like that because the cats are free roaming even though they are healthy and don't have any viruses.
OK done ranting. |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
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I call B.S. on rural BB deployment. My parents live in a rural area with no DSL, no cable but they are livin' large with satellite TV and HSI. In fact they have two HSI choices. Both are fixed wireless and reasonably cheap. (One provider is $49/month for 3Mbps/1Mbps and the other is $39/month for 1Mbps/1Mbps).
In fact, they have more choices than I living smack in the middle of the 18th largest metro area!
How do they have these choices? Both local companies that built their own fixed wireless system.
Now why would I want to help fund rural HSI when it seems to be doing fine if we leave it to the capitalist pigs? |
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DemonChicken
join:2006-10-15
Boon, MI
·Alltel Axess
| rradina good point.
However, I have NO fixed wireless available to me. There is some but its more miles away than DSL/cable and complete CRAP!
America can't even fix itself, we shouldn't try to do any more Iraqs unless were almost positive they have nukes, I'd rather pay more taxes and not have been nuked. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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Re: Total B.S.
said by stevephl :Excellent points, The best course of action would be the elimination of the USF altogether we already have enough taxes with corruption running rampant in Washington DC irrespective of party affiliation. No more USF taxes!!! Living large in Colorado Well that would be great but i's also fantasy. The USF is NOT going away so instead of talking about getting rid of it it's better to discuss better ways to use the USF. Keeping the status quo until a mythical day that won't happen is lunadcy. |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
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Re: Yay?
Do you have cell data plans in your area? I know they aren't cheap and they aren't unlimited but even living in small towns offers advantages that cannot be delivered to truly rural areas. Likewise, the wide open spaces and pin-drop silence of a country house is often cherished by those in crowded suburbia.
But I do understand your point about waste. I would certainly agree that funding rural infrastructure (whatever that might be, broadband, HSI, telephone, water, sewer, electric, etc.) is far smarter than many of our government's past and present policies.
I watched a show on Discovery/TLC/History/NGEO (forget which) about a new station in the Antarctic. I'm sure we spent some serious cash there while folks here in the U.S. do without health care.
Now just so you don't think I'm a bleeding heart liberal (hahaha -- I made myself laugh), I'm not suggesting we reallocate those funds for national health care. I'm suggesting we could cut waste and lower everyone's taxes. Or if we don't lower taxes, perhaps we could pay off our national debt. There are a lot of economists that believe our debt is a big burden on our economy. |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | reply to BF69
Re: Total B.S.
Our government is what we make it. We do have the power to get rid of the USF. The problem is, individually, people will make the right decision but put us in a room and we'll tend to vote with the crowd. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to rradina
Re: Yay?
said by rradina :I call B.S. on rural BB deployment. My parents live in a rural area with no DSL, no cable but they are livin' large with satellite TV and HSI. In fact they have two HSI choices. Both are fixed wireless and reasonably cheap. (One provider is $49/month for 3Mbps/1Mbps and the other is $39/month for 1Mbps/1Mbps). Most people's only chocie for "broadband" in the boonies is crappy satelite for $50 a month for 512Kbps no counting the $500 instalation fee. Also the 6-7 GB amonth caps. That's not a REAL choice.
People see broadband as a luxury. At one point electricity and phone service was considered a luxury. In fact that telephone tax that's been charged for 100+ years was originally a LUXURY tax on phone service because if you had a phone you were rich. That sounds crazy now. At one time having a toilet in your house meant you were rich. |
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DemonChicken
join:2006-10-15
Boon, MI | My god, I don't care if my internet was crap as long as it stays connected and doesnt lag.
I cant stay connected for 5 MINUTES!
THIS SUCKS! Broadband isn't a need but for me internet that at least isn't total CRAP is a need. |
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