raythompsontn
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Oliver Springs, TN | Brilliant Picture
Yeh, lets shine a bright laser light into the face. Safety glasses or not, that is never a good idea. |
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hopeflicker
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Long Beach, CA | ohh, it's probably just photoshopped or some type of harmless laser.
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raythompsontn
join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN | I highly suspect that it is Photoshopped as the exit light would not diverge that much. Still it does give the impression that the light is indeed shining directly into the eyes. |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT | reply to raythompsontn
That was such a dumb comment man, its just a green light. When you walk by those fiber Christmas trees , do you hide your eyes ?
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telcolackey
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Death Valley, CA | reply to raythompsontn
When do you read warning labels?
"DON'T LOOK AT LASER WITH REMAINING EYE" |
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raythompsontn
join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN
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Re: Brilliant Picture
said by ITALIAN926  :That was such a dumb comment man, its just a green light. When you walk by those fiber Christmas trees , do you hide your eyes ? Do you know that for sure? Have you read about the dangers of green lasers? Infared from those lasers? Fiber does not use "green light". They use lasers, a coherent light source, a highly concentrated light source.
Tell you what. Take a green laser and shine it in your eye. You can still see the keyboard with your one good eye. |
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ATTek
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| said by raythompsontn : Fiber does not use "green light". Incorrect. Any light will travel through a fiber for a short distance. It needn't be a laser. If the pic isn't doctored in some way, then it's likely just a green light to make a nice publicity picture. The Christmas tree question was a valid one......do you really think all of the decorations around that use fiber optic lighting are harmful to your eyes?
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Matt
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| said by ATTek :said by raythompsontn : Fiber does not use "green light". Incorrect. Any light will travel through a fiber for a short distance. It needn't be a laser. If the pic isn't doctored in some way, then it's likely just a green light to make a nice publicity picture. The Christmas tree question was a valid one......do you really think all of the decorations around that use fiber optic lighting are harmful to your eyes? Yep.
Some short distance fiber equipment even uses low-power LED lighting instead of lasers.
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gatorkram
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Are you telling me, a bunch of last mile providers are sitting out there right now, saying, man, if only we could bend the darn fiber, we'd be out there right now digging up the world?
I doubt it...
When you can KRAM that much data down existing copper, it might be news.
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to ATTek
Re: Brilliant Picture
Having any light source directed into the eyes is not a good idea. Angled light of relativistic ambient intensity is fine but directed light significantly brighter than ambient lighting can be damaging. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to gatorkram
Re: Real issue?
Yea, I think the bendable fiber is just an excuse for not setting fiber to labor intensive areas. Office buildings aren't altogether different than MDU's and many of them can get fiber. |
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swhitney2003
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Those are some sweet safety glasses |
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raythompsontn
join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN
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Re: Brilliant Picture
said by ATTek :said by raythompsontn : Fiber does not use "green light". Incorrect. Any light will travel through a fiber for a short distance. It needn't be a laser. Ok, then try and use "any light" to communicate through a fiber. Laser light is used because it is pure and does not suffer from degradation over distance that "any light" suffers. It is also easy to modulate the light. Try to modulate "any light" and measure your success. Try and get "any light" to travel more than a few feet through a fiber. It ain't gonna work. Again, lasers are used because the diameter of the fiber is matched to the frequency of the laser to reduce losses and interference.
For the photograph they may have used "any light" but the impression is designed to promote fiber communication and that requires a laser modulated beam. |
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raythompsontn
join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN
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said by Matt :Some short distance fiber equipment even uses low-power LED lighting instead of lasers. An LED is not just "any light" and in fact produces a narrower spectrum than just "any light".
LED's are indeed used for short length communications. To get the most distance, with minimal losses, requires the much purer light of a laser system. The characteristics of the fiber are matched to the very narrow frequency of the laser. To obtain the speeds mentioned in the article requires a laser, even for the short distances. LEDs would simply not do the job.
Fibers used on Christmas displays are not very powerful, they are not lasers, and certainly do not come close to the affects of a true green laser.
»www.mayoclinic.org/news2005-rst/2800.html
»www.electrooptics.com/features/f···ure_id=6
If you want to know about the dangers of green lasers. A web search will quickly show that green lasers, used improperly, are indeed a significant hazard.
Looking at the output end of a high speed link driven by lasers is just plain stupid. |
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Telukin
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join:2004-03-26
UK | So article about fiber comms (that uses laser) coupled with a stock photo of someone holding some fiber and being illuminated by the light from it means that the light in the photo must be a laser? Come on, lighten up. |
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viperlmw
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join:2005-01-25 | reply to raythompsontn
Ever heard of 'multimode'? It uses LEDs as the light soruce, for short, in building runs, and has a larger core. 'Singlemode' fiber uses lasers. |
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quatrix
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Davie, FL | reply to raythompsontn
I thought Slimer got her. |
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hitman_001
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Laredo, TX
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Re: Real issue?
said by gatorkram :Are you telling me, a bunch of last mile providers are sitting out there right now, saying, man, if only we could bend the darn fiber, we'd be out there right now digging up the world? I doubt it... When you can KRAM that much data down existing copper, it might be news. While you may be right in some aspects, I think the biggest thing here is in the price. I bet there are some providers out there who are thinking man we'd love to get this out faster, but the cost is totaly consuming! Having an alternative with equal or greater ability, and costing 1/3 of the price of normal fiber would substantially increase the buildout for those companies I think. Just think of where verizon COULD be right now with two thirds more to spend on their fiber "budget" had they been able to use products like this in the begining.
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raythompsontn
join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN
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Re: Brilliant Picture
said by viperlmw :Ever heard of 'multimode'? It uses LEDs as the light soruce, for short, in building runs, and has a larger core. 'Singlemode' fiber uses lasers. Yep. Keyword in all of this is distance. Floor to floor within a building is not much distance. Distance without losses requires closely matched components. |
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