| down/up ratio Awesome... a 50:1 download/upload ratio. A users upload is going to max out just on trying to download something with this out-of-spiraling-control ratio. |
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 telcolackey5The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA | Where does it say 50:1? Can I call FUD? |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA | This should be good for prices. This is good. More competition might make FIOS lower their prices agin on their upper tiers. |
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 Matt3All noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Current Upstream Speeds? They will probably roll out 3.0 to the highest speed tiers only.
What is the highest speed tier offered by Comcast now - both Down/Up?
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| useless... Why even upgrade if the speeds are going to be in the 20-50 megabit range? This could be done NOW without docsis 3.0
A fully uncapped docsis 2.0 speed would do this already without ANY upgrades. Only areas with docsis 1.0/1.1 should be upgraded to docsis 3.0 |
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 RobIn Deo speramus.Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:3 | reply to Matt3
Re: Current Upstream Speeds? said by Matt3:They will probably roll out 3.0 to the highest speed tiers only. What is the highest speed tier offered by Comcast now - both Down/Up? Some markets are at 16/2, 16/1. But it's safe to say that highest tier offered by Comcast, in all of their markets, is 8/768 (synced at 8800/768) |
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 a333A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY | reply to tmc8080
Re: useless... DOSCIS 2 shares the 50 megs among like 50 users, so comcast cant use it to offer those speeds to each and every sub. Now, hopefully, with channel bonding and the rest of it, DOSCIS 3.0 should be able to make those speeds possible. |
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| Re: Dubious.... wait wait wait......does that mean they will be for sure rolling out 3.0 in these territories....or will they merely have the upgraded infrastructure there to support it? Seems to me like rolling out new cable modems/emta's in 20% of their territory would be quite expensive/time consuming as far as configurations go. On a side note.....are there any Docsis 3.0 emta's available? |
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Re: down/up ratio said by telcolackey5:Where does it say 50:1? Can I call FUD? It doesn't. I was being slightly sarcastic with the way they said upload wasn't a priority. |
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| Usless for gamming I can not say this enough Please give me a reliable
connection I can play on. Its fast but so inconsistent
speed up and down LAg LAg LAg. Fix that and we are good.
Yea I can DL a patch every blue moon fast.. bonus |
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 CabalPremium
join:2007-01-21
Austin, TX
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Re: useless... Comcast is entirely DOCSIS 1.1 (the only requirement for Powerboost) with the exception of ex-Adelphia areas that were already 2.0. They will be performancing an in-place upgrade of 1.1 -> 3.0 in the the vast majority of their areas.
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CabalPremium
join:2007-01-21
Austin, TX Reviews:
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Re: Usless for gamming said by ANWDREW0: I can not say this enough Please give me a reliable connection I can play on. Its fast but so inconsistent speed up and down LAg LAg LAg. Fix that and we are good. Yea I can DL a patch every blue moon fast.. bonus Comcast is one of the most reliable, low-latency connections around. If that is not your experience, you need to call in and have your connection/equipment checked. Lag and high latency are far from the norm.
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Re: useless... They are always behind, trailing behind what someone else is already doing or has already done. Talk now is people dont even care about DOSIS 3.0 They either want fiber to the home or Verizon Fios. All Comcast ever offers is stupid stuff that cost them nothing to put up. All smoke and mirrors. While in the mean time everyone else is gearing up for the already demand like HD, and much faster Internet Download as well as Upload speeds. Comcast is like Washington State Highways
By time they add a new lane we could use 2 lanes. My guess by all the heat about traffic shaping, fear from share holders, and the pounding from the FCC and everyone else and the fact they dont want to put any real money into what they have, they will sell out in time. Never seen them in it for the long haul anyways. |
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said by a333:DOSCIS 2 shares the 50 megs among like 50 users, so comcast cant use it to offer those speeds to each and every sub. Now, hopefully, with channel bonding and the rest of it, DOSCIS 3.0 should be able to make those speeds possible. Actually the node shares a few hundred megabits (100-400 depending upon how many subscribers per node (24-50), which could be *split* to accommodate the greater speeds. It's the capability of the modems which can do in 40/30 megabit range:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS
1.x 38-42mbit / 9-10mbits
2.X 38-42mbit / 27-31mbits
3.X 152-171mbit / 108-123mbits
Again, this move means it will cost money to make money to earn back that market share lost to FIOS symmetrical, either way. Keep in mind, the most under-served areas of the comcast network have VERY HIGH node ratios (higher than 50 per node) which scale back the bandwidth all the way down to 1.X mbit per subscriber at $30-65 price ranges which is totally unacceptable in today's market. Might be competition to a QWEST region but nowhere else. |
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 gaforcesUnited We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
2 edits | Rollout So they are going to rollout a system thats specifications are only half specified, that wont be fully specified till 2008.
And they already ordered the modems in october! Good luck with those modems being compatible with the full docsis3 specs.
If they can fix the upstream channel bonding problems they seem to be having, then buy new modems, re-rollout, win 
When was all this supposed to happen? Not 2008.
Im a little confused about why there are certified docsis3 modems, but they dont work with Comcast upstream. |
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Re: useless... said by tmc8080:Why even upgrade if the speeds are going to be in the 20-50 megabit range? This could be done NOW without docsis 3.0 A fully uncapped docsis 2.0 speed would do this already without ANY upgrades. Only areas with docsis 1.0/1.1 should be upgraded to docsis 3.0 They could offer those speeds, but not at the current forward combining they have setup today.. They will more than likely reduce the number of users per downstream QAM , which in some cases means doing node splits. As far as uploading they will need to be at 1:1 per uBr upstream port.
So why rewire everything based on DOCSIS2 when 3 is right around the corner. Not to mention they are not just looking at DOCSIS 3 for fast internet speeds. DOCSIS3 offers a whole bunch of goodies for them. |
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 ShamayimI already have a Messiah.Premium
join:2002-09-23 | Comcast Users To See DOCSIS 3.0 in 2008 Come on, Cablevision! You gonna let them get away with that??? |
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| Comcast making a mistake with Upstream I think Comcast is making a mistake by only concentrating on download speeds at first. Who cares about having a 50Mbps download. Believe me 15 or 20Mps down is plenty for me if I can get the same Upstream.
I hope they get their stuff together and offer a good product with good prices. This may help drive higher speeds and better prices on Verizon's end. It would also help customers who are not in a Verizon area. As far as competing in the FIOS markets they have a long way to go.
I'll stick to my FIOS symmetrical 15Mbps package! |
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD | reply to Shamayim
Re: Comcast Users To See DOCSIS 3.0 in 2008 said by Shamayim:Come on, Cablevision! You gonna let them get away with that??? Cablevision is way ahead in speed and HD offerings.
I think all Cablevision customers can get Booast(up to 30 megabits) and Cablevision has up to 40 HD channels.
Comcrap has 8 megs max in most markets(16 megs in a few select markets) and only 22 or so HD channels.
Now, who is better. lol |
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 alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA | reply to a333
Re: useless... said by a333:DOSCIS 2 shares the 50 megs among like 50 users, so comcast cant use it to offer those speeds to each and every sub. Now, hopefully, with channel bonding and the rest of it, DOSCIS 3.0 should be able to make those speeds possible. I agree with a333, Cable Companies and Telco's are laid out differently. Cable Companies work on a sharing Network, while Telco's Network starts at the Central Office. DOSCIS 3.0 or Fiber through a Cable Company will still have limitations. Like I said Verizon FiOS is the clear winner anyway you look at it. |
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